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Among the most disturbing things I have ever read.
The petty whims of a single tech oligarch could undermine the lives of hundreds of millions of people.
So NATO becomes the North Sea and Baltic Alliance.
I wonder if Canada would stay in or leave? 
@garymarcus@sigmoid.social JD Vance should shut the fuck up and go bang another sofa.
@garymarcus that article is from September though. Not saying that those people aren't dangerous but they also don't always have long term memory it seems
@tante the threat surely still stands.
@garymarcus JD Vance can go autofornicate. In EU, Europeans decide, not the US.
@garymarcus And if Elon doesn't like it, he can go autofornicate too.
@garymarcus @hannu_ikonen They want to be free to sell their support to the highest bidding autocrat.
@garymarcus Totally not a fascist thing to do. State power in support of corporate power.
s/
@garymarcus If this becomes an issue, it will be very important for the EU to draw a line in the sand. The argument Vance puts up here is effectively based on the royal prerogative of DJT as the temporal embodiment of "American values." Accept that, and there will be no end to the accepting.
@fgbjr @garymarcus Paying the Blackmailer is usually a bad idea. They always come back for more.
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NATO is a promise of mutual defense. A promise only has value if it is credible, and it isn't anymore.
As the value of the promise drops, so drops the value of US weapons. I'm not sure the US arms industry should be happy about this.
@garymarcus I would say that the petty whims of billionaires is already undermining the lives of millions of people, if only with all the money they take out of the economy, so that people have to work two awful jobs to barely survive, but also with the misinformation slop their media serve all day, and with their sabotageing of the climate agreements.
@garymarcus well we will see soon enough. I do not see EU backing down over this halfwits threats.
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The Defense Authorization Act for fiscal 2024, passed in December of last year, requires 2/3 Senate approval for the US to abandon the NATO treaty.
I don't know if the Senate can amend/eliminate that by a simple majority. The new GOP Senate would need Dem votes to get to 67.
Of course, Trump can weaken NATO and strengthen our adversaries a great deal without a formal US withdrawal.
@garymarcus I had an incredibly frightening dream in August of 2001that war was coming to the U.S. I woke up scared and had not experienced that before. The 9/11 terrorist attack happened soon after but for whatever reason I didn’t believe my dream was related. Over the past few years however I feel like my dream was a serious premonition of a war that is coming soon. I’m sick and scared. I hope the military abides by the constitution and not the authoritarian.
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Let's fund Ukraine's reconstruction with fines applied to twitter!
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AND SO ONE SLEASY GUY TRUMPS THE WORLD? THESE ARE " THE BOYS" OF NOVEMBER.
@garymarcus America would lose access to bases all over Europe which is a good thing
@garymarcus This is how you get the European CEO's of Twitter
calling the US HQ's stating that they are losing 'a bit of money',
and 'something something Vance - something something either dead or skinned alive'.
Germany hasn't destroyed Ukrainian infrastructure, why should they pay for the Russian destruction?
This man needs to get his head examined.
#Nato is a #US toy without any other purpose than serving its (shitty) interests (like to control the #EU or to militarize the minds). The US playing with it as the warmongering asshole it is is kind of the norm. It already played an exacerbating role resulting in the ukrainian conflict (added to US plots in the region). The US is too nostalgic of "cold war" type of balance of power. It even seeks to deny #diplomacy at any occasion. It's a friction force against any peaceful world.
@Ronial didn’t realize we had Russian bots here and too
If you think the US is better than Putin, that's not my case. The same kind of assholes (the #west being often even worst. Putin can be listenable some times, he's still some logic. Not the case of the west. & it's not Russia which seeks to rule the world through wars or capitalism since decades). And in opposition with your aversion against Russians, I've nothing nor against russian people neither against american people. For those that aren't fascist (or fake leftist), anyway.
@garymarcus We need to get used to threats like this. For Trump and his ilk, the value of being president is mainly a bunch of valuable assets like NATO to threaten our partners about.
@garymarcus @HarriettMB I don’t think Elon will be flavour of the month with MAGA for very long.
@garymarcus #uspol This is straight up corruption.
They said they are going to do it anyway, long before baby business man was in trouble in Europe. They are going to claim this, and after action is dropped they will do it anyway.
@garymarcus Wow! Translated, "we will allow the world to go to shit if you don't pay more money to my buddy, who already has more money than most of the planet and doesn't need it, but he wants me to say this."
