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IT News<p>FrogFind Grabs the WAP - Yes, the Wireless Application Protocol! What other WAP could there possibly be? Th... - <a href="https://hackaday.com/2025/07/23/frogfind-grabs-the-wap/" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">hackaday.com/2025/07/23/frogfi</span><span class="invisible">nd-grabs-the-wap/</span></a> <a href="https://schleuss.online/tags/retrocomputing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>retrocomputing</span></a> <a href="https://schleuss.online/tags/retrocomputer" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>retrocomputer</span></a> <a href="https://schleuss.online/tags/phonehacks" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>phonehacks</span></a> <a href="https://schleuss.online/tags/frogfind" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>frogfind</span></a> <a href="https://schleuss.online/tags/wap" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>wap</span></a> <a href="https://schleuss.online/tags/2g" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>2g</span></a></p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://chaos.social/@LaF0rge" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>LaF0rge</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.ie/@kDelta" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>kDelta</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@stman" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>stman</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://infosec.exchange/@Sempf" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>Sempf</span></a></span> espechally in places like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Germany" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Germany</span></a> where regulators like <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.bund.de/@BNetzA" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>BNetzA</span></a></span> get record-breaking bids for <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/spectrum" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>spectrum</span></a> allocations solidly into the billions! </p><ul><li><p>And having at least narrowband <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/2G" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>2G</span></a> coverage is considered a <em>"necessary evil"</em> to fulfill spectrum obligations and keep pre-paid assignments if they don't want to get those <em>yoink'd</em> like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Quam" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Quam</span></a> when they <a href="https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quam" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">faceplanted after their painfully failed launch</a>. </p></li><li><p>Not to mention <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/eCall" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>eCall</span></a> uses <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/2G" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>2G</span></a> and has been made mandatory for new cars since 2017...</p></li><li><p>Also <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Australia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Australia</span></a> currently <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6qb9dml6So" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">learns <em>the hard way</em></a> that even <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/VoLTE" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>VoLTE</span></a> devices switch to 2G and/or <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/3G" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>3G</span></a> calling once they are dialling <code>000</code> (their local emergency services hotline).</p></li></ul>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://chaos.social/@LaF0rge" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>LaF0rge</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@stman" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>stman</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.ie/@kDelta" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>kDelta</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://infosec.exchange/@Sempf" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>Sempf</span></a></span> obviously that's why it <a href="https://infosec.space/@kkarhan/114863029952059372" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">was discontinued for a time</a> in <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Germany" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Germany</span></a>, as it was considered as obsolete as <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/HSCSD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>HSCSD</span></a> is in light of faster standards that - even without guaranteed bandwith - will yield higher throughput.</p><ul><li>Obviously <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CellBroadcast" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>CellBroadcast</span></a> will necessitate a constant bandwith allocation for functionality as it's design is based upon repeating a message until it's transmissiom being removed.</li></ul><p>Still, even in contended <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/spectrum" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>spectrum</span></a> this is manageable, espechally since most <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MNOs" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>MNOs</span></a> only maintain vestigal <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/2G" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>2G</span></a> or <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/3G" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>3G</span></a> infrastructure solely for <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/emergency" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>emergency</span></a> coverage and reliability, as <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6qb9dml6So" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">most phones will call emergency services over 2G and 3G</a> and not via <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/VoLTE" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>VoLTE</span></a>. </p><ul><li>To add insult to injury, most BSCs will downgrade to 2G-only service by default in case of power loss to maximize UPS range and in the case of <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/NewZealand" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>NewZealand</span></a> even switch off all services but <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SMS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SMS</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/EmergencyServicesCalling" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>EmergencyServicesCalling</span></a> to enshure people in need can get their calls out, as the population is instructed to use SMS for person-to-person communication (as SMS is a low-priority, non-realtime service using excess bandwith and thus not compete with calling like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/EDGE" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>EDGE</span></a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CSD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>CSD</span></a> would.</li></ul>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.ie/@kDelta" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>kDelta</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@stman" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>stman</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://infosec.exchange/@Sempf" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>Sempf</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://chaos.social/@LaF0rge" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>LaF0rge</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.nitrokey.com/@nitrokey" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>nitrokey</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.world/@signalapp" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>signalapp</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>GrapheneOS</span></a></span> </p><p>Given the <em>hamfisted</em> <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIJavqEzEIw" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">"Australian Approach"</a> I disagree.</p><ul><li>Noone here claims <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/2G" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>2G</span></a> or <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/3G" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>3G</span></a> are safe but don't you think stuff like <em>"Emergency Coverage"</em> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CellBroadcast" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>CellBroadcast</span></a> are useful?</li></ul><p>Will be interesting to see if Australia can pull that off without having to reenable 2G, cuz I've not heard of a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/4G" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>4G</span></a> implementation of it...</p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cell_Broadcast" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cell_Bro</span><span class="invisible">adcast</span></a></p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@stman" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>stman</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://infosec.exchange/@Sempf" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>Sempf</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://chaos.social/@LaF0rge" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>LaF0rge</span></a></span> yes.</p><p>Because physical SIMs, like any <em>"cryptographic chipcard"</em> (i.e. <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.nitrokey.com/@nitrokey" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>nitrokey</span></a></span> ) did all that fancy public/private crypto on silicon and unless that was compromizeable (which AFAICT always necessistated physical access to the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SIM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SIM</span></a>, espechally in pre-<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OMAPI" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OMAPI</span></a> devices) the SIM wasn't <em>'cloneable'</em> and the weakest link always had been the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MNO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>MNO</span></a> /.<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MVNO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>MVNO</span></a> issueing (may it be through <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SocialHacking" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SocialHacking</span></a> employees into <em><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SimSwapping" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SimSwapping</span></a></em> or LEAs showng up with a warrant and demanding <em>"<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/LawfulInterception" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>LawfulInterception</span></a>"</em>):</p><ul><li>These <em>"attack vectors"</em> were known and whilst <em>unfixable</em> they could at least be mitigated by i.e. <em>NEVER</em> using a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PhoneNumber" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>PhoneNumber</span></a> for anything <em>and/or</em> using anonymously obtained <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SIMs" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SIMs</span></a>. But more and more services like <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.world/@signalapp" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>signalapp</span></a></span> did <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/regression" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>regression</span></a> demanding <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PII" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>PII</span></a> <em>and</em> more and more nations <em>criminalized</em> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/AnonymousSimCards" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>AnonymousSimCards</span></a> under utterly <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/cyberfacist" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>cyberfacist</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FalsePretenses" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>FalsePretenses</span></a>!</li></ul><p>Add to that the <em>regression</em> in flexibility: </p><p>Unlike a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SimCard" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SimCard</span></a> which was designed as a <em>vendor-independent, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MultiVendor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>MultiVendor</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MultiProvider" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>MultiProvider</span></a>, device agnostic unit to facilitate the the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/authentification" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>authentification</span></a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/encryption" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>encryption</span></a> in <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/GSM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>GSM</span></a> (and successor standards)</em>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/eSIMs" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>eSIMs</span></a> act to restrict <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/DeviceFreedom" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>DeviceFreedom</span></a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ConsumerChoice" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ConsumerChoice</span></a>, which with shit like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/KYC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>KYC</span></a> per <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/IMEI" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>IMEI</span></a> (i.e. <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Turkey" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Turkey</span></a> demands it after 90 days of roaming per year) und <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/lMEI" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>lMEI</span></a>-based <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Allowlisting" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Allowlisting</span></a> (see <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Australia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Australia</span></a>'s shitty <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/VoLTE" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>VoLTE</span></a> + <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/2G" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>2G</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/3G" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>3G</span></a> shutdown!) are just acts to clamp down on <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/privacy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>privacy</span></a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/security" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>security</span></a>.</p><ul><li>And with <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/EID" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>EID</span></a> being unique per <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/eSIM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>eSIM</span></a> (like the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/IMEI" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>IMEI</span></a> on top!) there's nothing stopping <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/cyberfacist" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>cyberfacist</span></a> regimes like <em>"P.R."</em> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/China" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>China</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Russia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Russia</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Iran" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Iran</span></a>, ... from banning <em>"<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/eSIMcards" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>eSIMcards</span></a>"</em> (<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/eSIM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>eSIM</span></a> in SIM card form factor) or entire device prefixes (i.e. all phones that are supported by <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>GrapheneOS</span></a></span> ), as M(V)NOs see the EID used to deploy/activate a profile (obviously they don't want people to activate eSIMs more than once, <em>unless explicitly allowed otherwise</em>.</li></ul><p>"[…] [Technologies] must <em>always</em> be evaluated for their ability to oppress. […] </p><ul><li>Dan Olson</li></ul><p>And now you know why I consider a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/smartphone" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>smartphone</span></a> with eSIM instead of two SIM slots not as a <em>real</em> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/DualSIM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>DualSIM</span></a> device because it restricts my ability to freely move devices.</p><ul><li>And whilst German Courts reaffirmed §77 TKG (Telco Law)'s mandate to letting people choose their devices freely, (by declarong <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/fees" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>fees</span></a> for reissue of eSIMs illegal) that is only <em>enforceable towards M(V)NOs who are in <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Germany" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Germany</span></a></em>, so <em>'good luck'</em> trying to enforce that against some overseas roaming provider.</li></ul><p>Thus <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Impersonation" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Impersonation</span></a> attacks in GSM-based networks are easier than ever before which in the age of <em>more skilled than ever</em> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Cybercriminals" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Cybercriminals</span></a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Cyberterrorists" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Cyberterrorists</span></a> (i.e. <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/NSA" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>NSA</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Roskomnadnozr" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Roskomnadnozr</span></a>) puts espechally the average <em><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/TechIlliterate" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>TechIlliterate</span></a> User</em> at risk.</p><ul><li>I mean, anyone else remember the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Kiddies" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Kiddies</span></a> that <em>fucked around</em> with <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CIA" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>CIA</span></a> director <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Brennan" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Brennan</span></a>? Those were just using their <em>"weapons-grade <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/boredom" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>boredom</span></a>"</em>, not being effective, for-profit cyber criminals!</li></ul><p>And then think about those who don't have <em>privilegued access</em> to <em>protection</em> by their government, but rather <em>"privilegued access" to prosecution</em> by the state <em>because their very existance is criminalized...</em></p> <p>The only advantage eSIMs broight in contrast is <em>'logistical' convenience</em> because it's mostly a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/QRcode" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>QRcode</span></a> and that's just a way to avoid typos on a cryptic <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/LocalProfileAgent" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>LocalProfileAgent</span></a> link.</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://chaos.social/@LaF0rge" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>LaF0rge</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@sysmocom" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>sysmocom</span></a></span> I do agree on that one.</p><p>The main problem with some mandate in that regard is that such regulations then get flexed against consumers.</p><p>Notable examples are the:</p><ul><li><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/IMEI" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>IMEI</span></a>-Blocking in <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Turkey" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Turkey</span></a> after 90 days and subsequent demand for <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/KYC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>KYC</span></a> even for <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Roaming" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Roaming</span></a> devices.</li><li><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Australia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Australia</span></a>'s IMEI-Firewall because some morons decided they wanted to axe <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/2G" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>2G</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/3G" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>3G</span></a> despite millions of devices that can't do <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/VoLTE" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>VoLTE</span></a> still being in use.</li></ul><p>Now granted anyone who can manipulate the IMEI can circumvent that but that means 99,9% of all users aka. <em>"<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/TechIlliterates" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>TechIlliterates</span></a>"</em> can't.</p>
🌈 Lascapi ⁂<p>&gt; La sécurité est un autre argument presque imbattable. Les technologies plus récentes, comme la 4G et la 5G, offrent « des technologies d'authentification des utilisateurs, des technologies de chiffrement qui sont renforcées » par rapport à la 2G vieillissante. </p><p>C’est quoi les "technologies d'authentification des utilisateurs" dont ils parlent ? </p><p><a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/energie" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>energie</span></a> <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/telecom" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>telecom</span></a> <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/2g" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>2g</span></a> <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/question" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>question</span></a> </p><p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://infosec.exchange/@nono2357" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>nono2357</span></a></span></p>
🌈 Lascapi ⁂<p>&gt; « Une étude de l'ARCEP, le régulateur des télécoms, montre qu'entre 20 et 30% de la consommation énergétique des antennes mobiles sont dus à la 2G et à la 3G », révèle Anne-Flore Roger. La fin de la 2G, puis celle de la 3G avant fin 2028, permettront donc de réduire l'empreinte carbone du réseau mobile français.</p><p>Est-ce que c’est vraiment vrai ?? Ils ne donnent pas le pourcentage d’utilisation, alors c’est dur de prendre l’argument pour argent comptant !! </p><p>Quelqu’uns aurait-il des infos sur ce points ? </p><p><a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/energie" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>energie</span></a> <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/telecom" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>telecom</span></a> <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/2g" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>2g</span></a> <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/question" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>question</span></a> </p><p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://infosec.exchange/@nono2357" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>nono2357</span></a></span></p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mas.to/@alternativeto" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>alternativeto</span></a></span> I use <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@torproject" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>torproject</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/TorBrowser" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>TorBrowser</span></a> as my <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/default" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>default</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/browser" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>browser</span></a> simply because <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Tor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Tor</span></a> is better than any <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/VPN" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>VPN</span></a>, is free and secure as well as improving performance on spotty connections like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/2G" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>2G</span></a> networks!</p><ul><li>I've been using that for 15+ years now!</li></ul>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@bdf2121cc3334b35b6ecda66e471" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>bdf2121cc3334b35b6ecda66e471</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.glitched.systems/@froge" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>froge</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@fj" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>fj</span></a></span> maybe but it's better than a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/proprietary" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>proprietary</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SingleBendor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SingleBendor</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SingleProvider" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SingleProvider</span></a> solutiom as it just works even on <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/throttled" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>throttled</span></a>, sub-<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/2G" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>2G</span></a> speeds over <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Tor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Tor</span></a>...</p><ul><li>And you get <em>real <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/E2EE" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>E2EE</span></a> with <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SelfCustody" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SelfCustody</span></a> of all the Keys</em>!<a href="https://infosec.space/@kkarhan/114223266562515116" translate="no" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">infosec.space/@kkarhan/1142232</span><span class="invisible">66562515116</span></a></li></ul>
Paul Houle<p>🏚️ Why most countries are struggling to shut down 2G</p><p><a href="https://restofworld.org/2025/shutting-down-2g-networks-phones-obsolete/" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">restofworld.org/2025/shutting-</span><span class="invisible">down-2g-networks-phones-obsolete/</span></a></p><p><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/technology" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>technology</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/cellular" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>cellular</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/globalsouth" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>globalsouth</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/2g" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>2g</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/communications" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>communications</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/telecom" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>telecom</span></a></p>
APC<p>Why are most countries struggling to shut down 2G?</p><p>While telecom regulators worldwide agree on ditching 2G, many haven’t yet figured out the timeline. </p><p>This is due to concerns over enabling digital disparity and disrupting tech-enabled devices like pollution data sensors and electricity monitoring equipment, according to Mike Jensen, internet access specialist at APC, for <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://restof.social/@restofworld" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>restofworld</span></a></span>.</p><p><a href="https://restofworld.org/2025/shutting-down-2g-networks-phones-obsolete/" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">restofworld.org/2025/shutting-</span><span class="invisible">down-2g-networks-phones-obsolete/</span></a></p><p><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/InternetAccess" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>InternetAccess</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Connectivity" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Connectivity</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/2G" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>2G</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/5G" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>5G</span></a></p>
Europe Says<p><a href="https://www.europesays.com/1863581/" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="">europesays.com/1863581/</span><span class="invisible"></span></a> Helsevesenet vet ikke hvor mange som rammes <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/2G" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>2G</span></a> <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/Beredskap" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Beredskap</span></a> <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/Helsesektoren" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Helsesektoren</span></a> <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/Noreg" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Noreg</span></a> <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/Norge" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Norge</span></a> <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/norway" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>norway</span></a> <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/nyheter" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>nyheter</span></a> <a href="https://pubeurope.com/tags/vg" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>vg</span></a>:helseoglivet</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.nz/@phlogiston" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>phlogiston</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@torproject" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>torproject</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.librem.one/@guardianproject" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>guardianproject</span></a></span> at least <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.bund.de/@BNetzA" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>BNetzA</span></a></span> &amp; <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.bund.de/@Bundesregierung" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>Bundesregierung</span></a></span> didn't cancel <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/2G" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>2G</span></a> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/GSM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>GSM</span></a> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/EDGE" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>EDGE</span></a> with the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/3Gshutdown" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>3Gshutdown</span></a> like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Australia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Australia</span></a> did recently.</p><ul><li>Seriously, the Ozzies <a href="https://infosec.space/@kkarhan/113866074599066600" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">mandate</a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/VoLTE" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>VoLTE</span></a> and literally block <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ImportPhones" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ImportPhones</span></a> based off <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/IMEI" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>IMEI</span></a>!</li></ul>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://hachyderm.io/@lucasmz" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>lucasmz</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://ioc.exchange/@Avitus" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>Avitus</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://infosec.exchange/@david_chisnall" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>david_chisnall</span></a></span> the benefit of <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a>+<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OMEMO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OMEMO</span></a> is that there are <a href="https://github.com/greyhat-academy/lists.d/blob/main/xmpp.servers.list.tsv" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank"><em>several providers</em>, including free options</a>...</p><ul><li><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://monocles.social/@monocles" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>monocles</span></a></span> also supports <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Monero" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Monero</span></a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CashByMail" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>CashByMail</span></a> for those that can't use <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PayPal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>PayPal</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Stripe" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Stripe</span></a> or <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SEPA" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SEPA</span></a>.</li></ul><p>All <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PII" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>PII</span></a> incl. <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PhoneNumbers" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>PhoneNumbers</span></a> can and will be abused by existing governments and <em>if users don't pay, then they are the product and their data is the one to be sold</em>.</p><ul><li><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/KYC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>KYC</span></a> <em>IS</em> THE <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/IllicitActivity" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>IllicitActivity</span></a> WHEN IT COMES TO <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ComSec" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ComSec</span></a>!</li></ul><p>After all, you have the same <em>cost problem</em> with phone numbers. Even if one doesn't pay per line/number and never pay for calls and texts, they still have to top it up to extent validity.</p><ul><li>And again: It's way easier for a government to demand an ID for a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SIM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SIM</span></a> that works in networks around their country (i.e. <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Turkey" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Turkey</span></a> demands registration on a per-<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/IMEI" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>IMEI</span></a> - basis *with <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ID" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ID</span></a>) than to tunnel XMPP+OMEMO through <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@torproject" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>torproject</span></a></span> over <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/EDGEland" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>EDGEland</span></a>-speed <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/2G" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>2G</span></a> networks.</li></ul><p>Plus you relying an <em>unfixably insecure</em> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Telephony" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Telephony</span></a> makes a system inherently unsafer than it needs to be...</p><ul><li>This is how people get caught!</li></ul><p>Also <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Signal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Signal</span></a> is <em>able and willing</em> to use said PII to <em>restrict and ban users</em> and if I were some dissident in Cuba or North Korea or even just Eritrea or Yemen I'd not rely on non-enforcement of <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OFAC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OFAC</span></a> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/USML" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>USML</span></a> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ITAR" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ITAR</span></a> since Signal can obviously distinguish &amp; identify accounts by virgue if their <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PhoneNumber" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>PhoneNumber</span></a>! </p><ul><li>Always think <em>"How can this be weaponized against someone?"</em> when it comes to <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/privacy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>privacy</span></a>!</li></ul>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@vwestlife" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>vwestlife</span></a></span> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Funfact" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Funfact</span></a>: In <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Europe" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Europe</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Cband" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Cband</span></a> dishes weren't common so <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SatelliteInternet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SatelliteInternet</span></a> used simiar <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Tuner" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Tuner</span></a> cards with <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/VSAT" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>VSAT</span></a> terminals, usually accepting downlinks from regular commercial <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/TV" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>TV</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/satellites" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>satellites</span></a> that were just data channels on <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ASTRA" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ASTRA</span></a> and/or <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Eutelsat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Eutelsat</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/HotBird" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>HotBird</span></a> in the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/KuBand" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>KuBand</span></a>...</p><ul><li>Later they got some fancy <em>"SAT-Routers"</em> that combines a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/DVB" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>DVB</span></a>-S downlink and an <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/analog" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>analog</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/56k" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>56k</span></a> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ISDN" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ISDN</span></a> modem for uplink if not offered to use <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/2G" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>2G</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/mobile" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>mobile</span></a> networks as well...</li></ul><p>I've got <a href="https://www.teltarif.de/arch/2007/kw30/s26648.html" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">one of those</a>:</p><p>Basically a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Router" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Router</span></a> with some <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Linux</span></a> on Ethernet, Power &amp; F-Screw-Connector on the rear, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/56k" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>56k</span></a>&amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ISDN" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ISDN</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Modem" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Modem</span></a>|s and USB up-front.</p><ul><li>And yes, I used that to share a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/dialup" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>dialup</span></a> connection with multiple devices, because they can do that!</li></ul><p><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Retro" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Retro</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/RetroTech" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>RetroTech</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/RetroComputing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>RetroComputing</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/RetroNetworking" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>RetroNetworking</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Computing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Computing</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Networking" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Networking</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SatelliteInternet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SatelliteInternet</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/2000s" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>2000s</span></a></p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p>And don't even get me started on <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/VoLTE" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>VoLTE</span></a> <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6qb9dml6So" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">support</a>...</p><ul><li>Like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Australia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Australia</span></a> had <em>the glorious idea</em> of shutting down <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/3G" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>3G</span></a> <em>AND</em> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/2G" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>2G</span></a> as well as <em><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/allowlisting" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>allowlisting</span></a></em> <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPlTz-3estM" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">only specific</a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/IMEI" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>IMEI</span></a>|s, <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIJavqEzEIw" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">banning &gt; 500k devices</a> for no good reason.</li></ul><p>Also <em>most</em> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/VoLTE" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>VoLTE</span></a> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Vo5G" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Vo5G</span></a> - devices *explicitly use <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/2G" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>2G</span></a> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/3G" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>3G</span></a> for <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/EmergencyCalls" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>EmergencyCalls</span></a>!</p><ul><li>Which is <em><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/funfuckingtastic" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>funfuckingtastic</span></a></em> in a place like Australia where <em>basically everything in nature conspires to hurt or kill humans</em>!</li></ul><p><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/DownUnder" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>DownUnder</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/AUSpol" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>AUSpol</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/AUpol" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>AUpol</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/tech" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>tech</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/2Gshutdown" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>2Gshutdown</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/3Gshutdown" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>3Gshutdown</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/EmergencyCalling" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>EmergencyCalling</span></a></p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p>[<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/TLDR" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>TLDR</span></a>: JUST TELL ME <em>IF</em> YOUR TABLET CAN DO <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CALLS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>CALLS</span></a>!]</p><p><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/DearVendors" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>DearVendors</span></a> of <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Android" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Android</span></a>-<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Tablets" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Tablets</span></a>:</p><p>Off all the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Functions" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Functions</span></a> you can put into a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Specifications" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Specifications</span></a> Sheet of your Devices there's one you should <em>ALWAYS answer clearly</em> on your <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Website" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Website</span></a>:</p><p><em>DOES YOUR TABLET [with <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/4G" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>4G</span></a> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/5G" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>5G</span></a> / …) SUPPORT MAKING PHONE CALLS?</em></p><ul><li><p><em>NOT</em> "It can run <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/WhatsApp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>WhatsApp</span></a>" (or <em>whatever shitty <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CCSS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>CCSS</span></a> for <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/VoIP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>VoIP</span></a></em> you think of)...</p></li><li><p><em>NOT</em> "It can do <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CSD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>CSD</span></a> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/HSCSD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>HSCSD</span></a> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/2G" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>2G</span></a> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/3G" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>3G</span></a> /..."</p></li><li><p><em>But</em> DOES IT SUPPORT <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/GSM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>GSM</span></a>-<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Calls" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Calls</span></a> (and/or <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/VoLTE" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>VoLTE</span></a>)??</p></li></ul><p>Like: <em>IS IT TOO MUCH TO ASK TO HAVE THAT INFO IN THE SPECSHEETS?</em></p><p>You're obviously able to list all the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Codecs" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Codecs</span></a> natively supported and the user-available storage as well as supported Frequency Bands, WWAN modes, WiFi channel width and the Display Glass vs. Panel dimensions including DPI of the latter and whether or not it has a hall effect sensor to detect your overpriced 1st party tablet covers!</p><p>Now some folks may ask: <em>"WHY does this matter?"</em> or outright dismiss this as a problem.</p><p>Listen: <br>Not everyone is able or willing to carry <em>two</em> devices when 1 <em>SHOULD BE ENOUGH</em> and also some places (i.e. <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Turkey" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Turkey</span></a>) have <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ImportRestrictions" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ImportRestrictions</span></a> re: <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MobileDevices" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>MobileDevices</span></a>, so having more than 1 <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/IMEI" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>IMEI</span></a> is already a <em>"NOPE!"</em> by the authorities.</p><ul><li>Also this isn't something one can <em>"fix"</em> post-purchase like installing <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/VLC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>VLC</span></a> to decode some obscure file format in Software: Either <em>the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Baseband" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Baseband</span></a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ROM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ROM</span></a> support <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PhoneCalls" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>PhoneCalls</span></a> or they don't!</em></li></ul><p>So why do <em>NONE</em> of the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Tablet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Tablet</span></a> manufacturers allow to <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/search" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>search</span></a> or <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/filter" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>filter</span></a> for that???</p><ul><li>Bonus points if you have lazy fucks like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/HMD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>HMD</span></a> (aka. <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Nokia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Nokia</span></a>) who literally copy the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Safety" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Safety</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Useage" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Useage</span></a> information for all <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Smartphones" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Smartphones</span></a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Tablets" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Tablets</span></a> and don't even bother to change <em>"Mobile Phone"</em> for <em>"Tablet"</em>.</li></ul><p><em>NO</em>, instead one has to download an <em>obscenely huge <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PDF" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>PDF</span></a></em> just to then <a href="https://downloadcenter.samsung.com/content/UM/202410/20241010132004137/SM-X11X_X21X_UM_Open_UU_Ger_Rev.1.2_240925.pdf" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">read on page 34</a> that for any <em>"<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/telephony" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>telephony</span></a>"</em> function you <em>NEED YET ANOTHER DEVICE FROM THE SAME MANUFACTURER AND HAVE TO SIGNUP WITH AN ACCOUNT</em> and even that level of <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/abuse" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>abuse</span></a> WON'T GUARANTEE THAT IT WORKS...</p><ul><li>I mean, come on, this <em>ain't</em> some <em>obscure functionality</em> like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OMAPI" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OMAPI</span></a> to do some <em>"evil sourcery"</em> like <em>managing an <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/eSIM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>eSIM</span></a> that is in a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SIM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SIM</span></a>-Card form factor</em>!</li></ul><p>Pretty shure <em>A LOT</em> of other folks have the same question and ain't willing to get <em>yet another device &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SIM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SIM</span></a></em> just to recieve <em>the occasional call</em> because <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/TechIlliterates" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>TechIlliterates</span></a> can't be assed to send an <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/eMail" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>eMail</span></a> or learn <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a>+<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OMEMO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OMEMO</span></a> to message one...</p><ul><li>Obviously they same manufacturers are <em>able and willing</em> to specify <em>f-stops</em> of the built-in cameras and list <em>EVERY SINGLE <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/WEARABLE" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>WEARABLE</span></a></em> they made and certify as <em>'compatible'</em> with, as if <em>anyone</em> is gonna take their non-<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/waterproof" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>waterproof</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Tablet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Tablet</span></a> for a marathon or god forbid triathlon...</li></ul><p><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Rant" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Rant</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/TechSupport" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>TechSupport</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Technology" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Technology</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Support" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Support</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Sysadmin" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Sysadmin</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Procurement" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Procurement</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/IT" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>IT</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SpecSheet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SpecSheet</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Tech" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Tech</span></a></p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://infosec.space/@ada" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>ada</span></a></span> yeah, but then again Oz is ruled by <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/TechIlliterate" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>TechIlliterate</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Wankers" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Wankers</span></a> who decided to not only shutdown both <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/2G" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>2G</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/3G" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>3G</span></a> but <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPlTz-3estM" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">literally</a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ban" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ban</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/importPhones" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>importPhones</span></a> and basically lock-out any device that desn't do <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/VoLTE" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>VoLTE</span></a> <em>their way</em>...</p><p>And yes, they enforce that like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Turkey" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Turkey</span></a> enforces people to register imported devices 30 days after import:</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIJavqEzEIw" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">With</a> an <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/IMEI" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>IMEI</span></a> - <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/BanList" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>BanList</span></a>!</li></ul><p>So if you are i.e. a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Tourist" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Tourist</span></a> in <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/DownUnder" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>DownUnder</span></a> and you got some serious issue, you can't even call their emergency services on 000 cuz your devices got yeeted off the network through no fault of your own!</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p>Seriously, there's a reason why <em>every other nation</em> at the very least keeps the absolute minimum of bandwith necessary to maintain <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/2G" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>2G</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/3G" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>3G</span></a> service for <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/EmergencyCalling" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>EmergencyCalling</span></a>.</p><p>In fact, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Germany" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Germany</span></a> learned the hard way <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_Data_System#Program_types" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">that</a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CellBroadcast" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>CellBroadcast</span></a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PTY31" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>PTY31</span></a> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/RDS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>RDS</span></a> - based <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/alarms" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>alarms</span></a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/sirens" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>sirens</span></a> are not replaceable.</p><ul><li>It's frustrating to see that it took a <a href="https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hochwasser_in_West-_und_Mitteleuropa_2021#Rheinland-Pfalz" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">triple-digit bodycount</a> to get that across...</li></ul>