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Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://tweesecake.social/@adisonverlice" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>adisonverlice</span></a></span> even <em>if</em> an <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MVNO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>MVNO</span></a> isn't demanding any <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/KYC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>KYC</span></a> whatsoever (i.e. <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/prepaid" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>prepaid</span></a> are offered OTC in most juristictions) it's <em>NOT</em> "<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Anonymous" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Anonymous</span></a>" but merely <em><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/pseudonymous" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>pseudonymous</span></a></em> as it's trivial for governments to utilize existing <em>and mandtory "<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/LawfulInterception" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>LawfulInterception</span></a>" appliances</em> to create that <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PII" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>PII</span></a> chain.</p><p><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PhoneNumber" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>PhoneNumber</span></a> &lt;=&gt; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ICCID" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ICCID</span></a> (<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SIMcard" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SIMcard</span></a>) &lt;=&gt; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/IMSI" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>IMSI</span></a> (SIM profile) &lt;=&gt; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/IMEI" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>IMEI</span></a> (Phone/...).</p><p>So if <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Anonymity" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Anonymity</span></a> is important, <em>NONE</em> of these details have to be linked somehow even circumstantial.</p><ul><li><p>Bought/paid for the phone/SIM/ a single top-up with ec/CC/PayPal/SEPA/… = busted due to circumstantial connection.</p></li><li><p>Use the SIM in any device? Consider them <em>circumstantially connected</em> forever: <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ICCID" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ICCID</span></a> &lt;=&gt; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/IMEI" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>IMEI</span></a>.</p></li><li><p>Same applies to <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/eSIM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>eSIM</span></a>|s: <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/EID" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>EID</span></a> &lt;=&gt; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ICCID" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ICCID</span></a> &lt;=&gt; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/IMEI" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>IMEI</span></a>.</p></li></ul><p>Add to the fact that most places have <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CCTV" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>CCTV</span></a>, and assume that they'll keep recordings for the <em>maximum permissible duration</em> if not longer and oftentimes even use questionable cloud services and you get the picture.</p><ul><li>I.e. in Germany the maximum permissible storage duration is 72 hours (<em>if nothing hapoens that warrants a longer storage i.e. burglary/theft/robbery/arson/...</em>) so anonymous top-ups would necessitate paying cash at a place one's not been known at (i.e. some kiosk) and waiting at least &gt;72 hours (and checking on the purchase location) before redeeming the top-up code (i.e. dialing <code>*104*1234567890123456#</code> )...</li></ul><p>So any <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/privacy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>privacy</span></a>-based service should <em>never ever &amp; under no circumstances</em> demand a Phone Number!</p><ul><li><p>Instead any privacy-focussed service should use <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OnionServices" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OnionServices</span></a>, host their own <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OnionService" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OnionService</span></a> or at least <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/DontBlockTor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>DontBlockTor</span></a> and allow users to use it via <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@torproject" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>torproject</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Tor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Tor</span></a> to use and signup. (But don't forget circumstantial connections there either!)</p></li><li><p>Also the less details they want or store and the least traffic they generate the harder it is to correlate traffic &amp; users.</p></li></ul>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://infosec.exchange/@OhMyGod" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>OhMyGod</span></a></span> Remember: <em>ANY "<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/KYC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>KYC</span></a>" in terms of <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Messenger" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Messenger</span></a>| <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Apps" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Apps</span></a> IS the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/IllicitActivity" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>IllicitActivity</span></a>!</em></p><p>Regardless if <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.matrix.org/@matrix" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>matrix</span></a></span> or <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.world/@signalapp" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>signalapp</span></a></span> , the sheer request, demand or coercion onto <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PII" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>PII</span></a> like a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PhoneNumber" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>PhoneNumber</span></a> or <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/eMail" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>eMail</span></a>-Address <em>is</em> bad.</p><ul><li>If providers like <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.online/@mullvadnet" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>mullvadnet</span></a></span> can do a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/VPN" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>VPN</span></a> without any PII <em>and</em> can offer their Service via <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@torproject" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>torproject</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Tor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Tor</span></a> and host their Website as <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OnionService" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OnionService</span></a>, then there's no good reason for others not to do the same.</li></ul><p>Personally, I'll recommend to switch to some <em>real <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/E2EE" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>E2EE</span></a></em> with good <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SelfHosting" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SelfHosting</span></a> options like <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://chaos.social/@delta" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>delta</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/deltaChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>deltaChat</span></a> [which uses <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PGP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>PGP</span></a>/MIME) or <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://monocles.social/@monocles" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>monocles</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/monoclesChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>monoclesChat</span></a> (which is based upon <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a>+<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OMEMO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OMEMO</span></a> and who do host their own servers which are user-financed and can be paid for 100% anonymously.</p><p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.bund.de/@bfdi" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>bfdi</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.tchncs.de/@kuketzblog" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>kuketzblog</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://chaos.social/@netzpolitik_feed" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>netzpolitik_feed</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://chaos.social/@ccc" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>ccc</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.heise.de/@heiseonline" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>heiseonline</span></a></span></p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://infosec.exchange/@artfulmodder" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>artfulmodder</span></a></span> last time I checked <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.world/@signalapp" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>signalapp</span></a></span> still demanded <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PII" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>PII</span></a> in.the form of a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PhoneNumber" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>PhoneNumber</span></a>, still peddled the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MobileCoin" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>MobileCoin</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Shitcoin" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Shitcoin</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Scam" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Scam</span></a> and didn't move out of the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Cyberfacist" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Cyberfacist</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/USA" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>USA</span></a> despite <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CloudAct" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>CloudAct</span></a> being nothing new!</p><ul><li>Not to mention <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Signal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Signal</span></a> is both able and willing to discriminate against users based off said PII. Just because they do it for <em>"<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Sanctions" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Sanctions</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Compliance" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Compliance</span></a>"</em> diesn't mean they ain't gonna change that nor that <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.world/@Mer__edith" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>Mer__edith</span></a></span> (or anyone else at Signal) could be bribed or threatened to do so.</li></ul><p>They are <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/centralized" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>centralized</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SingleVendor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SingleVendor</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SingleProvider" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SingleProvider</span></a> and are thus a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SinglePointOfFailure" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SinglePointOfFailure</span></a> per design!</p><ul><li>Unlike <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://chaos.social/@delta" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>delta</span></a></span> (which is <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PGP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>PGP</span></a>/MIME in a different UI) or <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a>+<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OMEMO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OMEMO</span></a> (which you can use via <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@torproject" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>torproject</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Tor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Tor</span></a> and connect to a Server that is an <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OnionService" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OnionService</span></a>.</li></ul><p>IMHO <em>"memory tagging"</em> is the least of Signal's problems. To me they stench <em>"<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ControlledOpposition" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ControlledOpposition</span></a>"</em> just as hard as <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/AN%C3%98M" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ANØM</span></a> and <em>incompetence</em> as hard as <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/EncroChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>EncroChat</span></a>!</p>
Dimly Lit Corners<p><a href="https://c.im/tags/Goals2025" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Goals2025</span></a> </p><p>Moving away from the constant upgrade cycle &amp; moving closer to the ideals of <a href="https://c.im/tags/PermaComputing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>PermaComputing</span></a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/MalleableSoftware" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>MalleableSoftware</span></a> </p><p>Design and setup a redundant system of old/used, cheap, low-power devices running ia: <a href="https://c.im/tags/Guix" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Guix</span></a>, <a href="https://c.im/tags/Linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Linux</span></a>, <a href="https://c.im/tags/FreeBSD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>FreeBSD</span></a>, <a href="https://c.im/tags/macOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>macOS</span></a>, <a href="https://c.im/tags/HaikuOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>HaikuOS</span></a>, <a href="https://c.im/tags/Plan9Front" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Plan9Front</span></a>, <a href="https://c.im/tags/X11" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>X11</span></a>, <a href="https://c.im/tags/P9" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>P9</span></a>, <a href="https://c.im/tags/NFS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>NFS</span></a>, all working together </p><p>Become an expert on <a href="https://c.im/tags/MicroControllers" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>MicroControllers</span></a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/ESP32" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ESP32</span></a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/STM32" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>STM32</span></a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/RP2040" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>RP2040</span></a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/MIPS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>MIPS</span></a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/RiscV" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>RiscV</span></a> </p><p>DIY sensors which sing like birds to communicate their status</p><p>DIY robots "drones" </p><p>Move as much as possible of my computing needs to the <a href="https://c.im/tags/Terminal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Terminal</span></a>, <a href="https://c.im/tags/Emacs" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Emacs</span></a>, <a href="https://c.im/tags/Rio" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Rio</span></a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/CLI" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>CLI</span></a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/TUI" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>TUI</span></a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/P9" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>P9</span></a> </p><p>Get an <a href="https://c.im/tags/3DPrinter" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>3DPrinter</span></a> and learn to use it</p><p>Design and build my own portable 8dot <a href="https://c.im/tags/braille" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>braille</span></a> terminal &amp; try out if 3x3 or 3x4 dots is also workable.</p><p>Design and build my own low-power computers, their OS, and tools</p><p>Writing more of my own tools <a href="https://c.im/tags/DIY" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>DIY</span></a></p><p><a href="https://c.im/tags/SmallTalk" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SmallTalk</span></a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/ObjectPascal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ObjectPascal</span></a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/Prolog" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Prolog</span></a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/Scheme" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Scheme</span></a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/Racket" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Racket</span></a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/CommonLisp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>CommonLisp</span></a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/Haskell" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Haskell</span></a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/Rust" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Rust</span></a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/Go" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Go</span></a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/ObjectiveC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ObjectiveC</span></a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/Swift" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Swift</span></a></p><p>Deploy <a href="https://c.im/tags/LoRa" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>LoRa</span></a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/ReticullumNetwork" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ReticullumNetwork</span></a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/RNodes" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>RNodes</span></a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/MeshCore" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>MeshCore</span></a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/Meshtastic" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Meshtastic</span></a> </p><p>Start an <a href="https://c.im/tags/InternetResiliencyClub" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>InternetResiliencyClub</span></a> </p><p>Add <a href="https://c.im/tags/Tor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Tor</span></a>, <a href="https://c.im/tags/I2P" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>I2P</span></a> support by <a href="https://c.im/tags/WebProxy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>WebProxy</span></a> </p><p><a href="https://c.im/tags/SolarPowered" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SolarPowered</span></a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/SelfHost" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SelfHost</span></a> over <a href="https://c.im/tags/I2P" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>I2P</span></a>, <a href="https://c.im/tags/OnionService" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OnionService</span></a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/Blog" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Blog</span></a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/Wiki" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Wiki</span></a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/Repositories" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Repositories</span></a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/GopherHole" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>GopherHole</span></a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/Darcs" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Darcs</span></a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/Mercurial" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Mercurial</span></a> </p><p><a href="https://c.im/tags/SelfHost" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SelfHost</span></a> my own <a href="https://c.im/tags/EmailServer" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>EmailServer</span></a>, which will only accept email from <a href="https://c.im/tags/KnownServers" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>KnownServers</span></a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/CommunityEmail" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>CommunityEmail</span></a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/MutualEmailAcceptance" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>MutualEmailAcceptance</span></a> </p><p>Share files via <a href="https://c.im/tags/BitTorrent" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>BitTorrent</span></a> over <a href="https://c.im/tags/I2P" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>I2P</span></a> </p><p>DIY <a href="https://c.im/tags/HomeAutomation" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>HomeAutomation</span></a><br>DIY <a href="https://c.im/tags/GardeningAutomation" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>GardeningAutomation</span></a><br>DIY <a href="https://c.im/tags/GreenHouse" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>GreenHouse</span></a> </p><p>Get a house cat, train the cat, use voice and gestures</p><p>Start asking money for advice &amp; technology support</p><p>Build/program my own opportunistic and strange cryptocurrency miners <a href="https://c.im/tags/BTC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>BTC</span></a>, <a href="https://c.im/tags/XMR" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>XMR</span></a>, <a href="https://c.im/tags/ZEC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ZEC</span></a>, etc <a href="https://c.im/tags/Art" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Art</span></a> </p><p><a href="https://c.im/tags/MakeMoreArt" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>MakeMoreArt</span></a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/LearnToDraw" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>LearnToDraw</span></a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/Learn3DModeling" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Learn3DModeling</span></a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/LearnGenerativeArt" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>LearnGenerativeArt</span></a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/LearnToComposeAmbientMusic" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>LearnToComposeAmbientMusic</span></a> </p><p><a href="https://c.im/tags/ReCreateJottit" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ReCreateJottit</span></a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/ReCreateInstikiWiki" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ReCreateInstikiWiki</span></a> </p><p><a href="https://c.im/tags/WriteMore" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>WriteMore</span></a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/PublishMore" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>PublishMore</span></a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/Letters" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Letters</span></a>, <a href="https://c.im/tags/Essays" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Essays</span></a>, <a href="https://c.im/tags/Missives" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Missives</span></a>, <a href="https://c.im/tags/Reports" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Reports</span></a>, <a href="https://c.im/tags/Treatise" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Treatise</span></a> </p><p>…</p><p><a href="https://c.im/tags/Incomplete" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Incomplete</span></a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/Ongoing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Ongoing</span></a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/NotFinal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>NotFinal</span></a></p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@Cappyjax" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>Cappyjax</span></a></span> IDGAF about <em>"passion"</em>. <a href="https://infosec.space/@kkarhan/114697690127511140" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">All I care about is the security of users!</a></p><p>Requiring <em>any</em> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PII" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>PII</span></a> like a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PhoneNumber" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>PhoneNumber</span></a> is inacceptable when it comes to <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ComSec" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ComSec</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/InfoSec" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>InfoSec</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OpSec" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OpSec</span></a>, espechally given <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.world/@signalapp" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>signalapp</span></a></span> is not only able but entirely willing to restrict service based off said numbers, making their "solution" insecure by design.</p><ul><li>There's a reason why <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a>+<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OMEMO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OMEMO</span></a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PGP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>PGP</span></a>/MIME [both each over <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@torproject" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>torproject</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Tor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Tor</span></a>] is the <em>evidently superior and more secure approach</em>, as being unable to <em>"<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/KYC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>KYC</span></a>"</em> a user is a matter of security...</li></ul><p>Espechally since obtaining a phone number anonymously is oftentimes illegal (i.e. <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Germany" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Germany</span></a> made it illegal starting 07/2017, so using any service that demands a phone numner is out of question)</p><ul><li>And even <em>if</em> one can get an anonymous <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SIM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SIM</span></a> (with a phone number) or god forbid <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/eSIM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>eSIM</span></a>, (which is at best pseudonymous as tracking down users by virtue of matching ICCID, IMEI &amp; IMSI to location and time) the chances are high that one ends up with recycled phone numbers that have already been used.</li></ul><p>Obviously the devs of <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Signal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Signal</span></a> and <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.world/@Mer__edith" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>Mer__edith</span></a></span> are well aware of this critical flaw, which is why I consider them to act as <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Useful_idiot" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank"><em>"useful idiots"</em></a> or rather <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opposition_(politics)#Controlled_opposition" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank"><em>"controlled opposition"</em></a> as <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Signal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Signal</span></a> could've been shutdown trivially by the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/US" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>US</span></a> Government or forced into banning users based off their <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PhoneNumbers" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>PhoneNumbers</span></a> (they may call this <em>"<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/sanctions" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>sanctions</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/compliance" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>compliance</span></a>"</em> given they added a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Shitcoin" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Shitcoin</span></a> - Wallet into Signal!)...</p><ul><li>All the <em>"but <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Metadata" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Metadata</span></a>"</em> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FUD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>FUD</span></a> turns into <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MarketingLies" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>MarketingLies</span></a> once put under the looking glass and examined against the risk of state-sponsored / -endordsed / -supported attackers.</li></ul><p>Whereas with <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://monocles.social/@monocles" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>monocles</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/monoclesChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>monoclesChat</span></a>, <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@gajim" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>gajim</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/gajim" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>gajim</span></a> and <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://chaos.social/@delta" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>delta</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/deltaChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>deltaChat</span></a> and <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.online/@thunderbird" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>thunderbird</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Thunderbird" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Thunderbird</span></a> respectably I can not only use Tor, but do <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SelfHosting" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SelfHosting</span></a> for the entire <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/communications" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>communications</span></a> infrastructure (i.e. using an <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OnionService" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OnionService</span></a> = only reachable via Tor) and get the advantages of a self-routing, self-authenticating &amp; battle-hardened against censorship proxy network that can't be shutdown!</p><ul><li>And if you think this is too tinfoilhatted, then consider yourself privilegued enough of having your mere existance not being <a href="https://ilga.org/news/state-sponsored-homophobia-december-2019-decade-update/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">criminalized by the government under threat of public execution!</a></li></ul><p><a href="https://ilga.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/ILGA_World_map_sexual_orientation_laws_December2019.pdf" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">ilga.org/wp-content/uploads/20</span><span class="invisible">24/02/ILGA_World_map_sexual_orientation_laws_December2019.pdf</span></a><br><a href="https://infosec.space/@kkarhan/114697690127511140" translate="no" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">infosec.space/@kkarhan/1146976</span><span class="invisible">90127511140</span></a></p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.coop/@lukeshu" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>lukeshu</span></a></span> So I guess <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Anubis" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Anubis</span></a> has an explicit exception to handle <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Lynx" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Lynx</span></a> and will instead rely on rate-limits and other static means to detect <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/scrapers" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>scrapers</span></a> and handle with <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/UserAgent" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>UserAgent</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/abuse" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>abuse</span></a> cases, like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/fail2ban" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>fail2ban</span></a>-style autobanning of violating IPs...</p><ul><li>This makes sense for a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/WAF" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>WAF</span></a> like Anubis and would've been the only viable option I'm aware of.</li></ul><p>I wounder if anyone has tried using Anubis on <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@torproject" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>torproject</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Tor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Tor</span></a> to protect <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OnionService" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OnionService</span></a>|s since that would be a reasonable application for it as well.</p>
dexternemrod<p><a href="https://troet.cafe/tags/Tor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Tor</span></a> is mainly known for the anonymity it provides, but the <a href="https://troet.cafe/tags/onionservice" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>onionservice</span></a> is also awesome for easy networking and <a href="https://troet.cafe/tags/encryption" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>encryption</span></a> I just made my <a href="https://troet.cafe/tags/yacy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>yacy</span></a> instance accessible via a .onion-addresse in about 10 Minutes.</p><p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@torproject" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>torproject</span></a></span> is awesome! <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://sigmoid.social/@orbiterlab" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>orbiterlab</span></a></span></p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://friend.camp/@ranjit" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>ranjit</span></a></span> yes!</p><ul><li>And I'd love to copy that for a machine that checks <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OnionService" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OnionService</span></a> availability on <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@torproject" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>torproject</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Tor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Tor</span></a>...</li></ul>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fe.disroot.org/users/woffs" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>woffs</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://climatejustice.social/@stefanmuelller" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>stefanmuelller</span></a></span> wenn die von <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@tazgetroete" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>tazgetroete</span></a></span> ist werd' ich die in meine <a href="https://github.com/greyhat-academy/lists.d/blob/main/onion.domains.list.tsv" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Liste</a> an <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OnionService" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OnionService</span></a>|s packen...</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://climatejustice.social/@stefanmuelller" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>stefanmuelller</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@tazgetroete" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>tazgetroete</span></a></span> was ich hoffe: <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/taz" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>taz</span></a> macht nen <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OnionService" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OnionService</span></a> auf und verweigert sich <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Schutzgelderpressern" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Schutzgelderpressern</span></a> wie <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ClownFlare" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ClownFlare</span></a> weiterhin!</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://hear-me.social/@debby" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>debby</span></a></span> that assumes <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@protonprivacy" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>protonprivacy</span></a></span> actually cares about <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Privacy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Privacy</span></a>, which they <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCx_G_R0UmQ" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">evidently</a> <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeXaYR4ed9c" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">don't</a>, cuz otherwise they'd never even <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/log" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>log</span></a> or <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/request" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>request</span></a> any <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PII" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>PII</span></a> to begin with and instead offer their Services via <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@torproject" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>torproject</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Tor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Tor</span></a> as <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OnionService" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OnionService</span></a>…</p><ul><li>Not to mention they fuck around with customers' <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/eMails" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>eMails</span></a>, thus having prevented people from contributing to the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/LKML" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>LKML</span></a> in the past...</li></ul><p>To me <a href="https://hear-me.social/@debby/114075194499417075" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">this</a> isn't a big loss, but a <em>conditionless surrender</em> in favour of <em>better competitiors</em> like <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://monocles.social/@monocles" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>monocles</span></a></span> and even <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mstdn.social/@Stuxhost" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>Stuxhost</span></a></span> for that matter...</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p>Still no <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/VPN" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>VPN</span></a> fan but <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mas.to/@airvpn" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>airvpn</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/AirVPN" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>AirVPN</span></a> at least has a purpose given they have an <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OnionService" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OnionService</span></a> at: <a href="http://airvpn3epnw2fnsbx5x2ppzjs6vxtdarldas7wjyqvhscj7x43fxylqd.onion" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">http://</span><span class="ellipsis">airvpn3epnw2fnsbx5x2ppzjs6vxtd</span><span class="invisible">arldas7wjyqvhscj7x43fxylqd.onion</span></a></p><ul><li>Circumvent <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/DontBlockTor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>DontBlockTor</span></a>-blockades and provide an alternative <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@torproject" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>torproject</span></a></span> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ExitNode" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ExitNode</span></a>...</li></ul>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.tchncs.de/@pixelcode" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>pixelcode</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fedi.feministwiki.org/users/taylan" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>taylan</span></a></span> Your <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/@pixelcode/114232945195514403" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">nonchalant <em>"So what?"</em></a> gets people publicly murdered by the state in many juristictions...</p><ul><li>Which is why there is no substitute to teaching proper <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/TechLiteracy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>TechLiteracy</span></a> ffs!</li></ul><p>If things were so easy as in <em>"JuSt UsE sIgNaL!"</em> then <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.world/@signalapp" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>signalapp</span></a></span> would be shut down.</p><ul><li>Or do you really think that in a world where multi-year long sting ops like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/AN%C3%98M" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ANØM</span></a> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OperationIronside" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OperationIronside</span></a> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OperationTr%C3%B8janShield" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OperationTrøjanShield</span></a> get greenlit that <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.world/@Mer__edith" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>Mer__edith</span></a></span> would risk dying of old age in jail for non-paying users?</li></ul><p>If you do think so then you should really get some professional help, cuz you seem rather lost...</p><ul><li><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Signal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Signal</span></a> doesn't even bother to have an <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OnionService" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OnionService</span></a>, much less to provide means to use their service without self-doxxing with a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PhoneNumber" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>PhoneNumber</span></a>, which at best is pseudonymous and requires money to attain and maintain... </li></ul><p>It's <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/centralization" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>centralization</span></a> is an absolute nightmare and mist be deemed as criminally neglectful!</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://infosec.exchange/@Andromxda" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>Andromxda</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.tchncs.de/@pixelcode" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>pixelcode</span></a></span> How can you <a href="https://infosec.exchange/@Andromxda/114232892557687415" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">claim something you can't evidence</a>?</p><ul><li>Pretty shure if it's not <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.world/@signalapp" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>signalapp</span></a></span> themselves, then their centralized architecture and unwillingness to even have an <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OnionService" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OnionService</span></a> on <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@torproject" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>torproject</span></a></span> makes it trivial to pull a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Room641A" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Room641A</span></a> on them.</li></ul><p>It makes you look like one of those folks <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1thc5DSHwA" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">shilling</a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/VPN" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>VPN</span></a>|s that <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20210606070919/twitter.com/thegrugq/status/1085614812581715968" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">ain't logless after all</a>...</p><ul><li>I don't believe in <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/marketing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>marketing</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/lies" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>lies</span></a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Signal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Signal</span></a> can't (and won't) be able to evidence that they don't log shit.</li></ul><p>At least they should be honest about things and not claim bs, cuz demanding a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PhoneNumber" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>PhoneNumber</span></a> is <em>just <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/KYC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>KYC</span></a> with extra steps</em> like demanding any <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SSN" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SSN</span></a> or other <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PII" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>PII</span></a>. Makes them look like chinese MMORPGs that demand ID card numbers for account signups, thus <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/paywalling" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>paywalling</span></a> the ability to use their service anonymously...</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.world/@signalapp" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>signalapp</span></a></span> It's not <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/disinfo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>disinfo</span></a> when one points out that you demand <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PII" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>PII</span></a> aka. <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PhoneNumbers" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>PhoneNumbers</span></a> from Users and that is literally a architectural vulnerability, alongside your <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/proprietary" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>proprietary</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Centralized" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Centralized</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Infrastructure" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Infrastructure</span></a>.</p><ul><li><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Signal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Signal</span></a> being a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SingleVendor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SingleVendor</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SingleProvider" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SingleProvider</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Solution" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Solution</span></a> is literally the reason why I consider it <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/insecure" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>insecure</span></a>.</li></ul><p>Not to mention the lack of <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@torproject" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>torproject</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Tor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Tor</span></a> support with an <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OnionService" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OnionService</span></a> or the willingness to fulfill <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/cyberfacist" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>cyberfacist</span></a> <em>"Embargoes"</em> or shilling a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Shitcoin" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Shitcoin</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Scam" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Scam</span></a> named <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MobileCoin" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>MobileCoin</span></a>!</p><ul><li><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/KYC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>KYC</span></a> <em>is</em> the illicit activity!!!</li></ul><p>And don't get me started on the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/cyberfacism" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>cyberfacism</span></a> that is <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CloudAct" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>CloudAct</span></a>.</p><ul><li>If you were secure, criminals would've used your platform so hard, it would've been shutdown like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/EncroChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>EncroChat</span></a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SkyECC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SkyECC</span></a>.</li></ul><p>I may nit have allvthe.evidence yet, but <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Signal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Signal</span></a> stenches like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/AN%C3%98M" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ANØM</span></a>: <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Honeypot" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Honeypot</span></a>-esque!</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.glitched.systems/@froge" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>froge</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.net2o.de/@forthy42" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>forthy42</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@fj" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>fj</span></a></span> to me, <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.world/@signalapp" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>signalapp</span></a></span> being centralized and not even doing tue absolute minimum of supporting <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@torproject" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>torproject</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Tor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Tor</span></a> and having at least an <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OnionService" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OnionService</span></a> as <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/API" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>API</span></a>-Endpoint makes them <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/UsefulIdiots" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>UsefulIdiots</span></a>.</p><p>It's several things like that that rubvme the wrong way and that make it uncomfortable.</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mstdn.io/@ckrypto" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>ckrypto</span></a></span> if@signalapp@mastodon.world wasn't complying with <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CloudAct" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>CloudAct</span></a>, <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.world/@Mer__edith" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>Mer__edith</span></a></span> would be in jail.</p><p>Not to mention even <em>if</em> Signal keeps their <em>"<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OpenSource" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OpenSource</span></a>"</em> code updated - which is <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJoO2uWrX1M&amp;t=887s" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">doubtful</a>, <em>NOONE</em> can actually <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/verify" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>verify</span></a> that it's the code you actually use - regardless if <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/backend" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>backend</span></a> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Server" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Server</span></a> or <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/client" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>client</span></a> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/App" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>App</span></a>! </p><ul><li><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Signal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Signal</span></a> is as secure as <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/AN%C3%98M" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ANØM</span></a>, otherwise it would've been shutdown ages ago.</li></ul><p>Also if Signal was designed for <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/security" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>security</span></a>, it would've been <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/decentralized" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>decentralized</span></a> as <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a>+<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OMEMO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OMEMO</span></a> and not demand <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PII" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>PII</span></a> like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PhoneNumbers" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>PhoneNumbers</span></a> which oftentimes cannot be obtained anonymously in many juristictions <em>at all</em>!</p><ul><li>Only <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MultiVendor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>MultiVendor</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MultiProvider" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>MultiProvider</span></a> standards can be secure, regardless if OMEMO or <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PGP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>PGP</span></a>/MIME. </li></ul><p>By comparison, <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://chaos.social/@delta" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>delta</span></a></span> doesn't require any PII, only an <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/eMail" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>eMail</span></a> account, and <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://monocles.social/@monocles" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>monocles</span></a></span> isn't a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/VCmoneyBurningParty" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>VCmoneyBurningParty</span></a> but sustainable due to <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/subscription" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>subscription</span></a> and they don't even require any personal details for <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/payment" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>payment</span></a>: <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CashByMail" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>CashByMail</span></a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Monero" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Monero</span></a> are accepted.</p><ul><li>Not to mention neither <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/DeltaChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>DeltaChat</span></a> nor <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/monoclesChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>monoclesChat</span></a> are <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJoO2uWrX1M&amp;t=424s" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">pandering</a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Shitcoin" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Shitcoin</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Scams" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Scams</span></a> like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MobileCoin" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>MobileCoin</span></a> that <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DSGq9FQKU4" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">don't work</a> even for <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/TechLiterate" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>TechLiterate</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CryptoBros" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>CryptoBros</span></a>! </li></ul> <p>Again: It's Signal alone who have to evidence they are trustworthy, and all I get are <em>"<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/TrustMeBro" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>TrustMeBro</span></a>!"</em> replies, which means they are not to be trusted.</p><ul><li>Not to mention, it's just not sustainable to run a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/service" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>service</span></a> without <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/revenue" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>revenue</span></a>, even if it's run entirely by unpaid volunteers and gets all it's <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/hosting" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>hosting</span></a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/costs" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>costs</span></a> donated, someone has to pay for expenses due to <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/abuse" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>abuse</span></a> of a service (which is an inevitability come mass adoption)...</li></ul><p>Whereas with <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a> I can completely setup my own server and client, even build my own if I don't trust anyone else and pay someone to audit the code.</p><ul><li>Signal as a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/centralized" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>centralized</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SingleVendor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SingleVendor</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SingleProvider" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SingleProvider</span></a> service is inevitable vulnerable to <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/RubberhoseCryptoanalysis" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>RubberhoseCryptoanalysis</span></a>, and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Meredith" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Meredith</span></a> <em>will break</em> if not doing so means <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20210226175949/https://twitter.com/thegrugq/status/1085614812581715968" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">jail for life until she does</a>!</li></ul><p>Whereas with XMPP &amp; PGP/MIME <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/eMail" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>eMail</span></a> I can layer <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@torproject" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>torproject</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Tor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Tor</span></a> over it, make it an <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OnionService" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OnionService</span></a> and keep that thing under my bed with a <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F59iKSrx63c&amp;list=PL2YepVFF1azEYo0c0HdYwykbp_AXchaIp" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">literal killswitch</a>...</p>
qbi<p>Traurige Nachrichten:</p><p>Die <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://press.coop/@nytimes" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>nytimes</span></a></span> hat deren <a href="https://freie-re.de/tags/Tor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Tor</span></a> Onion Service deaktiviert.<br><a href="https://open.nytimes.com/https-open-nytimes-com-the-new-york-times-as-a-tor-onion-service-e0d0b67b7482" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">open.nytimes.com/https-open-ny</span><span class="invisible">times-com-the-new-york-times-as-a-tor-onion-service-e0d0b67b7482</span></a></p><p><a href="https://freie-re.de/tags/OnionService" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OnionService</span></a> <a href="https://freie-re.de/tags/HiddenService" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>HiddenService</span></a> <a href="https://freie-re.de/tags/Darknet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Darknet</span></a></p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://infosec.space/@CppGuy" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>CppGuy</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@fesshole" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>fesshole</span></a></span> the only thibg you can do is force Google to nuke history and take it as lession to use <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/DuckDuckGo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>DuckDuckGo</span></a>'s <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OnionService" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OnionService</span></a> on <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@torproject" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>torproject</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/TorBrowser" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>TorBrowser</span></a> instead.</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://chaos.social/@Natanox" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>Natanox</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://anonsys.net/profile/ccc" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>ccc@anonsys.net</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://chaos.social/@chaosupdates" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>chaosupdates</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.bau-ha.us/@CCC" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>CCC@social.bau-ha.us</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://chaos.social/@ccc" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>ccc@chaos.social</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://chaos.social/@ccchh" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>ccchh</span></a></span> leider ist <code>m2ylflyeak6i6o4hsfwcrfwcq2bbjxk6nf2rnmm7fu6qiuu3hybenzid.onion</code> / <a href="http://jabber.ccc.de" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">http://</span><span class="">jabber.ccc.de</span><span class="invisible"></span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OnionService" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OnionService</span></a> <em>immernoch</em> down!</p>