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Theory and Therapy of Representations • 5
inquiryintoinquiry.com/2025/02

Re: R.J. Lipton and K.W. Regan • Legal Complexity
rjlipton.com/2022/09/04/legal-

❝I do not pretend to understand the moral universe;
the arc is a long one, my eye reaches but little ways;
I cannot calculate the curve and complete the figure by
the experience of sight; I can divine it by conscience.
And from what I see I am sure it bends towards justice.❞

🙞 Theodore Parker
web.archive.org/web/2020030204

The arc of the moral universe may bend toward justice — there's hope it will.
For the logic of laws to converge on justice may take some doing on our part.

Resources —

Survey of Cybernetics
inquiryintoinquiry.com/2024/01

Survey of Differential Logic
inquiryintoinquiry.com/2024/02

Survey of Inquiry Driven Systems
inquiryintoinquiry.com/2024/02

#AdaptiveSystems #Cybernetics #SystemsTheory #Governance #Democracy
#Plato #Peirce #MaxWeber #Accountability #Representation #Statistics
#Inquiry #InquiryDrivenSystems #Observation #Expectation #Intention

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Re: Ontolog Forum • Paola Di Maio
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JA: What are the forces distorting our representations of what's observed, what's expected, and what's intended?

PDM: The short answer is — the force behind all distortions is our own unenlightened mind, and all the shortfalls this comes with.

I think that's true, we have to keep reflecting on the state of our personal enlightenments. If we can do that without losing our heads and our systems thinking caps, there will be much we can do to promote the general Enlightenment of the State.

On both personal and general grounds we have a stake in the projects of self‑governing systems — whether it is possible for them to exist and what it takes for them to thrive in given environments. Systems on that order have of course been studied from many points of view and at many levels of organization. Whether we address them under the names of adaptive, cybernetic, error-correcting, intelligent, or optimal control systems they all must be capable to some degree of learning, reasoning, and self‑guidance.

Resources —

Survey of Cybernetics
inquiryintoinquiry.com/2024/01

Survey of Differential Logic
inquiryintoinquiry.com/2024/02

Survey of Inquiry Driven Systems
inquiryintoinquiry.com/2024/02

#AdaptiveSystems #Cybernetics #SystemsTheory #Governance #Democracy
#Plato #Peirce #MaxWeber #Accountability #Representation #Statistics
#Inquiry #InquiryDrivenSystems #Observation #Expectation #Intention

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Scene 2. Theory and Therapy of Representations • 1
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Statistics were originally the data a ship of state needed for stationkeeping and staying on course. The Founders of the United States, like the Cybernauts of the Enlightenment they were, engineered a ship of state with checks and balances and error-controlled feedbacks for the sake of representing both reality and the will of the people. In that connection Max Weber saw how a state's accounting systems are intended as representations of realities its crew and passengers must observe or perish.

That brings us to Question 2 —

• What are the forces distorting our representations of what's observed, what's expected, and what's intended?

Resources ─

Survey of Cybernetics
inquiryintoinquiry.com/2024/01

Pragmatic Theory Of Truth
oeis.org/wiki/Pragmatic_Theory

#AdaptiveSystems #Cybernetics #SystemsTheory #Governance #Democracy
#Plato #Peirce #MaxWeber #Accountability #Representation #Statistics
#Inquiry #InquiryDrivenSystems #Observation #Expectation #Intention

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Theory and Therapy of Representations • 3.1
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Representation is a concept we find at the intersection of cybernetics, epistemology, logic, mathematics, psychology, and sociology. In my studies it led me from math to psych and back again, with sidelong glances at the history of democratic governance. Its time come round again, I find myself returning to the scenes of two recurring questions.

Scene 1. Pragmatic Truth • Discussion 18
inquiryintoinquiry.com/2019/11

We do not live in axiom systems. We do not live encased in languages, formal or natural. There is no reason to think we will ever have exact and exhaustive theories of what's out there, and the truth, as we know, is “out there”. Peirce understood there are more truths in mathematics than are dreamt of in logic — and Gödel’s realism should have put the last nail in the coffin of logicism — but some ways of thinking just never get a clue.

That brings us to Question 1 —

• What are formalisms and all their embodiments in brains and computers good for?

Resources ─

Survey of Cybernetics
inquiryintoinquiry.com/2024/01

Pragmatic Theory Of Truth
oeis.org/wiki/Pragmatic_Theory

#AdaptiveSystems #Cybernetics #SystemsTheory #Governance #Democracy
#Plato #Peirce #MaxWeber #Accountability #Representation #Statistics
#Inquiry #InquiryDrivenSystems #Observation #Expectation #Intention

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In a complex society, people making decisions and taking actions at places remote from you have the power to affect your life in significant ways. Those people govern your life, they are your government, no matter what spheres of influence they inhabit, private or public. The only way you get a choice in that governance is if there are paths of feedback permitting you to affect the life of those decision makers and action takers in significant ways. That is what accountability, response-ability, and representative government are all about.

Naturally, some people are against that.

In the United States there has been a concerted campaign for as long as I can remember — but even more concerted since the Reagan Regime — to get the People to abdicate their hold on The Powers That Be and just let some anonymous corporate entity send us the bill after the fact. They keep trying to con the People into thinking they can starve the beast, to limit government, when what they are really doing is feeding the beast of corporate control, weakening their own power over the forces that govern their lives.

That is the road to perdition as far as responsible government goes. There is not much of anything one leader or one administration can do unsupported if the People do not constantly demand a government of, by, and for the People.

Resource ─

Survey of Cybernetics
inquiryintoinquiry.com/2024/01

#AdaptiveSystems #Cybernetics #SystemsTheory #Governance #Democracy
#Plato #Peirce #MaxWeber #Accountability #Representation #Statistics
#Inquiry #InquiryDrivenSystems #Observation #Expectation #Intention

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❝Again, in a ship, if a man were at liberty to do what he chose, but were devoid of mind and excellence in navigation (αρετης κυβερνητικης), do you perceive what must happen to him and his fellow sailors?❞

─ Plato • Alcibiades 135 A

Statistics were originally the data a ship of state needed for stationkeeping and staying on course. The Founders of the United States, like the Cybernauts of the Enlightenment they were, engineered a ship of state with checks and balances and error‑controlled feedbacks for the sake of representing both reality and the will of the people. In that connection Max Weber saw how a state's accounting systems are intended as representations of realities its crew and passengers must observe or perish.

The question for our time is —

• What are the forces distorting our representations of what's observed, what's expected, and what's intended?

Repercussions ─

The Place Where Three Wars Meet
inquiryintoinquiry.com/2012/06

Resource ─

Survey of Cybernetics
inquiryintoinquiry.com/2024/01

#AdaptiveSystems #Cybernetics #SystemsTheory #Governance #Democracy
#Plato #Peirce #MaxWeber #Accountability #Representation #Statistics
#Inquiry #InquiryDrivenSystems #Observation #Expectation #Intention

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Been a bit more cognitively blunt since a infection some 16 weeks ago that was followed by not being able to smell #Tea leaves.

As treatment, going to read through the following article and pick out things of interest.

No claim that things of interest will be widely significant or accurately considered.

Looks like this intersects with #Computing, #AI, #SystemsTheory and #Philosophy.

Are Biological Systems More Intelligent Than Artificial Intelligence?

osf.io/preprints/psyarxiv/e6fk

osf.ioOSF

TALKING WITH FRITJOF…
Morag Gamble’s permaculture Festival of Ideas certainly lived up to its name when she went live with it in May of this year. So, thanks Morag.

One of the highlights, well, the main highlight for me was the appearance of Fritjof Capra, the scientist whose book ‘The Tao of Physics’ , inspired and intrigued me when it was published decades ago. Fritjof went on the integrtate systems theory into his synthisis of modern science and traditional spiritual systems.

“Systems thinking and understanding networks are key attributes to understanding the world and how it works”, he said, they are key patterns in nature. They are also key concepts underlying the structure and application of permaculture.

medium.com/permaculture-3-0/ta

PERMACULTURE journal · Talking with Fritjoff… - PERMACULTURE journal - MediumBy Russ Grayson

#introduction

Hello everyone, I am Diego (aka videco)! I love making music with code and also with other instruments (#electricguitar, #drums, #lumatone).

Among the music projects where I participate, probably the most relevant for this server is Pirarán, a networked ensemble.

My favorite coding tool/language is #overtone (#clojure) for which I've developed libraries related to #microtonality and #polytemporality, as well as a port of #tidalcycles called #piratidal. I also like #tidalcycles #supercollider and #hydra.

Conceptually one of my primary motivators is exploring creativity as a natural phenomena. I do so by conceiving thought/imagination as an ecosystem where different ideas get to co-evolve, and so, I try to think of the projects I work on as part of a network of relations and the products, not as things in themselves, but as parts of a bigger whole. Consequently I place great emphasis on #collaboration as diversity is most important to maintain the dynamic equilibrium of ecosystems and to keep them healthy and lively. As part of all that #chaostheory, #systemstheory, #ecology and #anarchy are also things that interest me.

You can find more information on the music at echoic.space

The repositories live at github.com/diegovdc

Pirarán's music is here: piraran.bandcamp.com

echoic.spaceDiego Villaseñor | Echoic SpaceDiego Villaseñor: músico, compositor, programador, artista transdisciplinario. Música experimental, partituras, código y análisis
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After some tuning time my new creation of a #nonlinear #DynamicalSystems example is ready for the showcase.

I call it "Dynamically Accelerated PT2" (DAPT2). The step response starts smooth as for a PT2 but reaches the final value much faster (but still smoothly).

#control #engineers and #systemstheory

I will publish the formula soon but meanwhile I encourage you to guess how it is done.

Hints: #ODE system of order 5, analytic vectorfield ( i.e., rhs is "even smoother" then C∞)

Dear fellow #control #engineers and #systemstheory nerds 🤓 . I want to invite you on my little journey through the interesting lands of #nonlinear #DynamicalSystems.

My goal is to come up with some differential equations of dynamical systems which have some not-so-common step responses. How far and interesting this will be – I don't know, but it might get interesting.

We start with this little friend: It loads fast but unloads slow. I call it "leashed DT1 element".

An overdue #introduction 👋 (thanks for the prompt when I switched instances @aussocialadmin )

My name is Scott and I live in Sydney (on Wangal Country in the Inner West). My pronouns are he / him.

I was born and raised in Canada (Alberta, even), and have lived in some great places around the world (Montreal, NYC, Vermont, rural Kenya). Being a Canadian man of a certain age, yes, I play hockey. Even in Australia.

I've been very (not extremely) online since the 90s. First it was rec.music.phish, then fark.com, then the Big Tech Socials.

I strive to behave with compassion and to be more kind than nice. But I also shitpost from time to time because internet.

I'm interested in lots of things and barely maintain a blurred boundary between personal and professional. See hashtags below or on my profile for a more specific list, but I think it's generally encompassed by the concept of #interbeing which I understand as being coined by Thich Nhat Hanh and drawn from Vietnamese and older Buddhist concepts.

Hashtags ftw: #anthropology #anarchism #buddhism #collaboration #collectiveImprovisation #complexity #complexSystems #conviviality #culture #decolonisation #design #designResearch #engagedAnthropology #engagedBuddhism #engagedDesign #ethnography #foresight #futures #hockey #improvisation #JustTransition #music #pluriverse #politicalEcology #protopia #serviceDesign #strategicDesign #systemsTheory #systemsThinking #speculativeEverything