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kaliplease don't get me wrong. i am not denying the findings of <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/climatscience" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#climatscience</a> or the <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/limitstogrowth" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#limitstogrowth</a> reports. yes, things look really dire. but the lack of true understanding of <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/systemsdynamics" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#systemsdynamics</a>, which is not hard to obtain bc at the end of the day it is just basic observation of nature, will lead this whole <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/talkcollapse" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#talkcollapse</a>-thing to become a self fulfilling prophecy, bc you are closing your eyes to the options we STILL have by practicing this lack of understanding.and yes, that should be good news.

kaliso basically:- <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/overshoot" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#overshoot</a> & <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/collapse" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#collapse</a> as a <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/systemsdynamics" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#systemsdynamics</a> concept are final & different from oscillation. it is not a thing you want to look forward to.- although the <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/systemsdynamics" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#systemsdynamics</a> are the same, collapse can happen slow and gradually. it depends on which variable you look at. when you say "collapse" also say 'collapse of what', exactly, bc otherwise it is just vibes-based BS. i am sorry.<a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/climatechange" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#climatechange</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/limitstogrowth" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#limitstogrowth</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/talkcollapse" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#talkcollapse</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/justcollapse" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#justcollapse</a>

kalibut that is not always the case, although it is probably the concept most people have of <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/collapse" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#collapse</a>. an abrupt and sudden breakdown of complexity. it can also happen in a symmetric, gradual way, or even slower than the growth.the underlying <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/systemsdynamics" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#systemsdynamics</a> which cause the collapse are the same.

kalididn't want to share ugo anymore because he became sort of an antivaxx hippie*, but he is the only one talking about his as far as i can see. and interestingly, right now, it has absolutely nothing to do with <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/energy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#energy</a>, which is a thing ugo should have mentioned.the generation 2 collapseologists have a lot to correct themsleves on right now.*just so you have been warned.<a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/complexity" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#complexity</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/collapse" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#collapse</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/talkcollapse" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#talkcollapse</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/systemsdynamics" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#systemsdynamics</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/senecacliff" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#senecacliff</a> <a href="https://senecaeffect.substack.com/p/the-imp-with-a-chainsaw?utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://senecaeffect.substack.com/p/the-imp-with-a-chainsaw?utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web</a>

kali<a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/systemsthinking" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#systemsthinking</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/systemsdynamics" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#systemsdynamics</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/systemsengineering" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#systemsengineering</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/emergence" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#emergence</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/complexity" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#complexity</a> <a href="https://a.gup.pe/u/systemsthinking" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@systemsthinking</a>

kali<a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/systemsthinking" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#systemsthinking</a> <a href="https://a.gup.pe/u/systemsthinking" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@systemsthinking</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/systemsdynamics" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#systemsdynamics</a>

kaliK-selected species have slower reproduction & longer generation times, their responses to changes in population size are delayed, which creates lower-amplitude, slower oscillations in their populations.they are selected for by evolution regarding resource use, hence K-selected.humans like other big mammals once were a K-selected species, even when elon musk is flying around with his jet having 3 million kids - we still are.<a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/overshoot" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#overshoot</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/systemsthinking" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#systemsthinking</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/systemsdynamics" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#systemsdynamics</a> <a href="https://a.gup.pe/u/systemsthinking" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@systemsthinking</a>

kali<a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/systemsdynamics" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#systemsdynamics</a>-wise there are 2 different types of species:r-selected species like insects or small mammals have rapid reproduction & short generation times, so they respond quickly to environmental changes. they produce many offspring, so they face overshooting K often, leading to high-amplitude, rapid oscillations in their population stocks, especially when delayed responses are present.<a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/overshoot" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#overshoot</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/systemsthinking" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#systemsthinking</a> <a href="https://a.gup.pe/u/systemsthinking" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@systemsthinking</a>

kalifor the sake of simplicity here is some jargon from biology that is used in the population dynamics context all the time:the amount of possible individuals available resources of a certain environment can sustain is called carrying capacity or K.the, temporary or not, uptick in population in the fluctuation caused by delayed balancing feedbacks is called <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/overshoot" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#overshoot</a>.<a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/systemsthinking" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#systemsthinking</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/systemsdynamics" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#systemsdynamics</a> <a href="https://a.gup.pe/u/systemsthinking" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@systemsthinking</a>

kalidelays, system oscillation & <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/overshoot" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#overshoot</a>(this is where the tea begins)in population dynamics, negative feedbacks are responsible for regulating population's stock in response to resources availability. delays in that response can lead to oscillations in population stock over time. system oscillations are a characteristic of balancing feedbacks in which the information regulating the goal-seeking action is delayed.<a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/systemsthinking" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#systemsthinking</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/systemsdynamics" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#systemsdynamics</a> <a href="https://a.gup.pe/u/systemsthinking" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@systemsthinking</a>

kaliand because the economy has the same feedback structures as populations of living beings they behave the same way. in general it can be said that systems with the same or similar structures also behave similarly. so we can now look at a systems behavior over time, the measurements it's stocks, from that draw conclusions to it's internal structure and explore the dynamics of know systems to understand things about unknown systems.<a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/systemsthinking" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#systemsthinking</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/systemsdynamics" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#systemsdynamics</a> <a href="https://a.gup.pe/u/systemsthinking" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@systemsthinking</a>

kaliso here is the things with these systems and dominance of feedbacks: they change in between their states all the time. these changes happen when the dominance of their feedbacks changes. with the population example it could be that food becomes more available which causes a spike in population and the reinforcing loop becoming dominant or a disease decimating a population leading to a decline when the balancing loop becomes dominant.<a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/systemsthinking" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#systemsthinking</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/systemsdynamics" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#systemsdynamics</a> <a href="https://a.gup.pe/u/systemsthinking" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@systemsthinking</a>

kaliwe have a self-reinforcing feedback on the one side, more individuals being born, flowing into the population stock again leading to more births.we have a balancing feedback on the other hand side, individuals dying.<a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/systemsthinking" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#systemsthinking</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/systemsdynamics" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#systemsdynamics</a> <a href="https://a.gup.pe/u/systemsthinking" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@systemsthinking</a>

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