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tshepang<p>created a Zulip instance with the hope it would be used as a shared home for the various Rust in-person meets around the world<br><a href="https://rust-meets.zulipchat.com" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">rust-meets.zulipchat.com</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p><p><a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/meetups" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>meetups</span></a> <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/zulip" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>zulip</span></a> <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/rustlang" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>rustlang</span></a></p>
Hans-Cees 🌳🌳🤢🦋🐈🐈🍋🍋🐝🐜<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://hachyderm.io/@tshepang" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>tshepang</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@zulip" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>zulip</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mas.to/@alternativeto" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>alternativeto</span></a></span> <a href="https://ieji.de/tags/teams" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>teams</span></a> alternative <a href="https://ieji.de/tags/zulip" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>zulip</span></a> is easy to try-out <br><a href="https://ieji.de/tags/microsoft" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>microsoft</span></a> <a href="https://ieji.de/tags/openSource" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>openSource</span></a> <a href="https://ieji.de/tags/euroCloud" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>euroCloud</span></a> <a href="https://ieji.de/tags/Nextcloud" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Nextcloud</span></a></p>
Hans-Cees 🌳🌳🤢🦋🐈🐈🍋🍋🐝🐜<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@zulip" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>zulip</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mas.to/@alternativeto" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>alternativeto</span></a></span> <a href="https://ieji.de/tags/zulip" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>zulip</span></a> is an alternative for <a href="https://ieji.de/tags/slack" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>slack</span></a> or <a href="https://ieji.de/tags/teams" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>teams</span></a> <br><a href="https://ieji.de/tags/IKnewThat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>IKnewThat</span></a> <br>I don't know where zulip is based though and if you can run it in your own Iaas stack</p>
F-Droid<p>This week in <a href="https://floss.social/tags/FDroid" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>FDroid</span></a> (TWIF) is live:</p><p>* F-Droid 1.23.0 is now enabled for all, just update!<br>* Categories galore, 3 now, 20 in total soon!<br>* Dive into Android development<br>* More lists of best apps by <a href="https://floss.social/tags/izoatetech" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>izoatetech</span></a> <br>* Skip <a href="https://floss.social/tags/Gadgetbridge" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Gadgetbridge</span></a> for some devices<br>* Old <a href="https://floss.social/tags/Element" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Element</span></a> <a href="https://floss.social/tags/Matrix" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Matrix</span></a> fixes a CVE<br>* <a href="https://floss.social/tags/Zulip" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Zulip</span></a> now in <a href="https://floss.social/tags/Flutter" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Flutter</span></a><br>+ 6 new apps<br>&amp; 138 more updates</p><p>Scroll by: <a href="https://f-droid.org/2025/06/26/twif.html" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">f-droid.org/2025/06/26/twif.ht</span><span class="invisible">ml</span></a></p>
Jens-Christian Fischer<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.online/@larsmb" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>larsmb</span></a></span> No - but I just passed this on to a friend group that is also on <a href="https://swiss.social/tags/Discord" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Discord</span></a> and starting to eye alternatives as <a href="https://swiss.social/tags/Discord" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Discord</span></a> is progressing on the <a href="https://swiss.social/tags/entshitification" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>entshitification</span></a> <br><a href="https://swiss.social/tags/Zulip" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Zulip</span></a> looks really good at first glance</p>
Lars Marowsky-Brée 😷<p>Has anyone got experience with "migrating" a friend group <a href="https://mastodon.online/tags/Discord" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Discord</span></a> (about 200 users, 10-20% sporadically active) to <a href="https://mastodon.online/tags/Zulip" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Zulip</span></a> or <a href="https://mastodon.online/tags/Revolt" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Revolt</span></a>? </p><p>Crucially, most of them are not tech savvy, so it would need to be low barrier and work on iOS and Android as well.</p><p><a href="https://mastodon.online/tags/UnplugTrump" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>UnplugTrump</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.online/tags/OpenSource" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OpenSource</span></a></p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://chaos.social/@martinsteiger" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>martinsteiger</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://toots.ch/@dalai" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>dalai</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://monocles.social/@monocles" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>monocles</span></a></span> da habe ich eher <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://chaos.social/@delta" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>delta</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/DeltaChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>DeltaChat</span></a> (weil <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/eMail" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>eMail</span></a>-Infrastruktur samt <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Archivierung" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Archivierung</span></a> bereits besteht) sowie <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@RocketChat" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>RocketChat</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/RocketChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>RocketChat</span></a> und vorallem <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@zulip" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>zulip</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Zulip" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Zulip</span></a> gesehen...</p><ul><li>Letzteres vorallem wegen dem asynchronen <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Threading" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Threading</span></a> …</li></ul><p><a href="https://infosec.space/@kkarhan/114705349963955215" translate="no" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">infosec.space/@kkarhan/1147053</span><span class="invisible">49963955215</span></a></p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fedifreu.de/@cryptgoat" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>cryptgoat</span></a></span> weshalb ich sage dass <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Matrix" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Matrix</span></a> nen schechteres <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a> oder gar mieseres <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/IRC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>IRC</span></a> ist und deshalb ich bei Organisationen entweder <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/RocketChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>RocketChat</span></a> oder <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Zulip" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Zulip</span></a> gesehen bzw. deployed habe weil dort eher Nachvollziehbarkeit und <a href="https://zulip.com/why-zulip/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">asyncrones Threading</a> wichtiger war...</p>
Yorgos Saslis<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://toot.radicle.xyz/@radicle" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>radicle</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mstdn.io/@zeh" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>zeh</span></a></span> yeah happy to help if you have some specific issue!</p><p>The <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/support" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>support</span></a> channel in our <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/zulip" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>zulip</span></a> is the best place to share some more details. ;)</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@MrGR" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>MrGR</span></a></span> widerspricht zwar meiner Erfahrung aber :okay: :cool:…</p><ul><li><p>Für Vereine und Organisationen gibt's mit <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://chaos.social/@delta" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>delta</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/deltaChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>deltaChat</span></a> &amp; <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@zulip" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>zulip</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Zulip" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Zulip</span></a> sowie <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@RocketChat" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>RocketChat</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/RocketChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>RocketChat</span></a> passendere Optionen die auch entsprechende Administration und Archivierung erlauben.</p></li><li><p>delta chat nutzt <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/eMail" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>eMail</span></a>-Infrastruktur (<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PGP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>PGP</span></a>/MIME).</p></li><li><p>Zulip unterstützt asynchrone Themensortierung exzellent.</p></li><li><p>RocketChat is ne weitere okay Option...</p></li></ul> <p>Nach <a href="https://mastodon.social/@MrGR/114698787697945033" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">der gleichen Logik</a> würden wir alle immernoch nur <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Gopher" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Gopher</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/BBS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>BBS</span></a> und <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/IRC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>IRC</span></a> nutzen!</p>
Jens Bannmann<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://hachyderm.io/@mikebroberts" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>mikebroberts</span></a></span> <br>I don't get why <a href="https://nerdculture.de/tags/Zulip" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Zulip</span></a> is not used more often in "forums", for support work and for general community building. IMO, it's got modern UI and it's purpose-built to organize communities and help with asynchronous communication that can be searched later. Plus, it's entirely free and open source software and there are both self hosting and paid hosting options.</p><p>No other solution I know comes close, especially not the ones that focus on <a href="https://nerdculture.de/tags/VoiceChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>VoiceChat</span></a> or try to mimic <a href="https://nerdculture.de/tags/Discord" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Discord</span></a>, e.g. <a href="https://nerdculture.de/tags/Revolt" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Revolt</span></a>.</p>
kazé<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mamot.fr/@vjousse" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>vjousse</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://piaille.fr/@ergol" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>ergol</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mamot.fr/@ploum" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>ploum</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.zaclys.com/@zaclys" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>zaclys</span></a></span> <br>On a donc regardé des alternatives aux forums/ML/newsgroup/etc.</p><p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.cloud/@geobabbler" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>geobabbler</span></a></span> nous a fait découvrir <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Zulip" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Zulip</span></a>, et perso je suis complètement fan : ça impose de créer un nouveau sujet pour démarrer une discussion, comme sur un forum/ML/newsgroup, tout en gardant le côté temps réel. Pour du smalltalk c’est nul, mais c’est le job de Discord/Matrix/XMPP ça.</p><p>Sinon il y a <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Discourse" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Discourse</span></a>, si on veut une alternative plus « lente ».</p><p>3/n</p>
unfa🇺🇦<p>it seems the landing page is up now.<br>I have been thinking about migrating to Zulip, and dropping self-hosting for that. We'd only be self-hosting Matterbridge to bind the proprietary and FOSS chats together.<br><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Zulip" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Zulip</span></a> is very FOSS-friendly and would probably sponsor us with free premium hosting. We'd no longer need to care about updating the server and the like.<br>But it of course would require everybody who used Rocket.Chat to make a new account there.<br>Anybody has thoughts?</p>
-𝚍𝚜𝚛- (has pronouns)<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://corteximplant.com/@ety" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>ety</span></a></span> </p><p>For folks who have the opportunity to influence organizational decisions:</p><p><a href="https://tilde.zone/tags/Zulip" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Zulip</span></a> doesn't do this. Every feature is available. Also, you can self-host it for free, because it's open source. And it's much, much nicer than Slack.</p><p>They also offer a hosting service, and a subscription service to get notifications out to Apple and Android devices without the bother of distributing your own Zulip clients for those devices.</p>
Stefan Ihringer<p>We're using <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@zulip" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>zulip</span></a></span> as our in-house chat system. I've just managed to connect it to LDAP and upgraded it from one major version to the next... It's a bit daunting to upgrade such a central piece of our company's communication and notification infrastructure. If something went wrong it would cause a real headache. But what can I say: it worked flawlessly.<br>You can see from the detailed documentation and changelogs that they're putting in a lot of effort to make upgrades work smoothly.</p><p><a href="https://mograph.social/tags/zulip" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>zulip</span></a></p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.tchncs.de/@kuketzblog" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>kuketzblog</span></a></span> da widerspreche ich vehement.</p><p>Es gibt <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/propriet%C3%A4r" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>proprietär</span></a>|e <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Silos" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Silos</span></a> welche qua <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SingleVendor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SingleVendor</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SingleProvider" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SingleProvider</span></a>-Aufbau als <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/InformationBlackhole" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>InformationBlackhole</span></a> agieren (u.a. <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/WhatsApp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>WhatsApp</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Signal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Signal</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Threema" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Threema</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Session" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Session</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Telegram" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Telegram</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/discord" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>discord</span></a>, …)</p><p>und es gibt <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OffeneStandards" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OffeneStandards</span></a> die <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Wahlfreiheit" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Wahlfreiheit</span></a> zwischen <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Clients" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Clients</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Plattformen" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Plattformen</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Servern" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Servern</span></a> und <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Providern" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Providern</span></a> ermöglichen (u.a. <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/IRC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>IRC</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Zulip" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Zulip</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/RocketChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>RocketChat</span></a>, ...) und <em>echte <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/E2EE" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>E2EE</span></a></em> mit <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SelfCustody" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SelfCustody</span></a> <em>aller Schlüssel</em> ermöglichen (u.a. <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a>+<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OMEMO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OMEMO</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PGP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>PGP</span></a>/MIME)...</p><p>Natürlich steht es Menschen frei irgendeinen großen, zentralisierten Anbieter zu nutzen, nur wird dieser am ehesten zur <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Enshittification" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Enshittification</span></a> neigen und mit <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PII" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>PII</span></a> wie <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Telefonnummern" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Telefonnummern</span></a> entsprechende Begierlichkeiten wecken!</p>
kazé<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://blahaj.social/@leah" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>leah</span></a></span> We’ve tested <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Zulip" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Zulip</span></a> for the <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://piaille.fr/@ergol" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>ergol</span></a></span> project and liked it a lot, but found it’s a rather specific approach — a bit like an instant mailing-list I guess?</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/discord" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>discord</span></a> <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LhiCP8AQWs" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank"><em>IS LITERALLY THE PROBLEM!</em></a></p><ul><li><p>It's worse than any <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/IRC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>IRC</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Mumble" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Mumble</span></a> or even the old <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/TeamSpeak" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>TeamSpeak</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Skype" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Skype</span></a> for that matter.</p></li><li><p>It combines the disadvantages of <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Forum" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Forum</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/paywalled" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>paywalled</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/documentation" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>documentation</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/chat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>chat</span></a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/voicechat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>voicechat</span></a> with 0 redeeming qualities (unlike <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Zulip" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Zulip</span></a> &amp; Mumble &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a>+<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OMEMO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OMEMO</span></a>) it's just an <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/InformationBlackhole" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>InformationBlackhole</span></a>!</p></li></ul><p>I'm shure fecking <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/dread" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>dread</span></a> has better moderation and I'd rather use <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MicrosoftTeams" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>MicrosoftTeams</span></a> + <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Slack" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Slack</span></a> cuz those at least have proper <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/moderation" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>moderation</span></a> tools.</p><ul><li>And I'd rather subscribe to the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/LKML" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>LKML</span></a> and see my inbox getting hosed than using any shitty <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SaaS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SaaS</span></a>!</li></ul><p>Case in point: I'd rather <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SelfHost" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SelfHost</span></a> all my comms infrastructure than to ever use something like Discord or any other <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/GDPR" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>GDPR</span></a>-violating SaaS that is just enshittification.</p><p>I'd rather recommend people to instead choose a tool that does <em>everything but horrible</em> to go with multiple <em>smaller &amp; good tools</em></p><ul><li>Public Chat? IRC!</li><li>Group Voicechat? Mumble.</li><li><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Documentation" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Documentation</span></a>? <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/mkDocs" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>mkDocs</span></a>-material.</li><li>1:1 Chats? XMPP+OMEMO.</li><li>E2EE Group Chats? <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/deltaChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>deltaChat</span></a>.</li><li>E2EE Calls? <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/WebCall" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>WebCall</span></a>.</li><li>Filehosting? <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/IPFS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>IPFS</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/BitTorrent" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>BitTorrent</span></a>, oshi.at, etc. ...</li><li>…</li></ul><p>Check <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mas.to/@alternativeto" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>alternativeto</span></a></span> and <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@european_alternatives" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>european_alternatives</span></a></span> for options.</p>
Yorgos Saslis<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@blaise" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>blaise</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://toot.radicle.xyz/@radicle" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>radicle</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@zulip" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>zulip</span></a></span> Fully agree! </p><p>Hard to go back to the messiness of <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/slack" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>slack</span></a> / <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/discord" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>discord</span></a> after indulging in <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/Zulip" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Zulip</span></a> ! 😅</p>
David Lord :python:<p>Discord's latest update just put up a floating ad covering part of the UI. You have to watch a video ad, or hover over it long enough for a initially invisible dismiss button to show up. I've been wanting to switch Pallets over to <a href="https://zulip.com" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">zulip.com</span><span class="invisible"></span></a>, this seems like a good reason to. <a href="https://mas.to/tags/Discord" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Discord</span></a> <a href="https://mas.to/tags/Zulip" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Zulip</span></a></p>