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Of all the things I’ve seen newer OSes take from older ones I’ve run, I have yet to see anyone bring back Work Folders from OS/2. I really enjoyed those when I had them and every now and then, when working on a project, I really miss them. Today is one of those days.

#os2
#os2warp

An die #OS2-Bubble:

Wieso funktioniert Win-OS/2 nur, wenn ich mein #ThinkPad T22 im VGA-Modus boote? Wenn ich den vorgesehenen S3-Treiber installiere und die Auflösung auf z.B. 1024x768 stelle, startet die Windows 3.1-Sandbox nicht mehr. Was übersehe ich?

Nutze btw. OS/2 Warp 4.52 CP2. Der S3-Treiber hat die Version v7.00.37 und hat während der Installation ältere Fonts als die bereits installierten kopiert. Hängt es damit zusammen?

Next gratuitous #RetroComputing nerd project: set up #OS2 Warp 4 on my DOS/Win3 rig. It looks like all of my hardware is supported out-of-the-box so it should work well. I did a test run in 86Box and it all checked out there. My first impression is that it's like a weird parallel universe version of WinNT. Which, if I understand correctly, it basically is.

What's the essential "starter pack" of stuff I should install? I know about the Hobbes archive but that's about the limit of my experience.

This is an absolutely brilliant 4D chess move by #IBM. Charge people $149 for making it easier to port their #windows software to #OS2

Who WOULDN'T want to do this. What a steal.

Were there people at IBM who had a lot of Microsoft stock or something? The more I read about OS/2 the more I'm surprised it even made it to version 4. What the fsck where they thinking.

Absolutely incredible.

Welcome to my mini ISA VGA shootout!
TL;DR: ISA Matrox cards are really, really slow in DOS.

I recently built an original Pentium 60MHz system, built on an ECS motherboard. Around the same time I received a "mystery" VGA card: A Matrox MGA Impression ISA card. And since most of my builds are "open builds" and therefore easily accessible, that machine got the pleasure of becoming the test bench for the Matrox.

As already revealed, the Matrox performs atrociously bad. So bad, in fact, that I had to test a couple other ISA cards to make sure it wasn't a system issue. I used my go-to benchmarking tool #3DBench from Phil's DOS Benchmark Pack. I really don't want to experience Doom with this card..

And without further ado, the contestants and their results in this spur-of-the-moment benchmark run:
- Baseline: A 32-bit PCI S3 Virge/DX based card with 4MB RAM: A perfectly workable 48.2
- The low-end Trident TVGA9000C with 512KB RAM (this is a real garbage card): A pretty shitty 14.2
- The mid-range Cirrus Logic CL-GD-5422 with 1MB RAM (this is a decent card, know for compatibility but not necessarily speed): A barely bearable 24.7
- And finally, the "star" of the show, the Matrox: A whopping 10.9!

I said it was atrocious, didn't I? But hey, I'm gonna use this one with #OS2 anyway, so who cares about DOS performance, right? ;)

#RetroComputing #Benchmarks #VGA #SlowVGA
Welcome to my mini ISA VGA shootout!
TL;DR: ISA Matrox cards are really, really slow in DOS.

I recently built an original Pentium 60MHz system, built on an ECS motherboard. Around the same time I received a "mystery" VGA card: A Matrox MGA Impression ISA card. And since most of my builds are "open builds" and therefore easily accessible, that machine got the pleasure of becoming the test bench for the Matrox.

As already revealed, the Matrox performs atrociously bad. So bad, in fact, that I had to test a couple other ISA cards to make sure it wasn't a system issue. I used my go-to benchmarking tool #3DBench from Phil's DOS Benchmark Pack. I really don't want to experience Doom with this card..

And without further ado, the contestants and their results in this spur-of-the-moment benchmark run:
- Baseline: A 32-bit PCI S3 Virge/DX based card with 4MB RAM: A perfectly workable 48.2
- The low-end Trident TVGA9000C with 512KB RAM (this is a real garbage card): A pretty shitty 14.2
- The mid-range Cirrus Logic CL-GD-5422 with 1MB RAM (this is a decent card, know for compatibility but not necessarily speed): A barely bearable 24.7
- And finally, the "star" of the show, the Matrox: A whopping 10.9!

I said it was atrocious, didn't I? But hey, I'm gonna use this one with #OS2 anyway, so who cares about DOS performance, right? ;)

#RetroComputing #Benchmarks #VGA #SlowVGA

Received these in the mail today. Haven't had a Norwegian OS/2 box since the early 90s! And the one on the right is the somewhat rare Norwegian "OS/2 2.1 for Windows 3.1" on CD-ROM - if it isn't on archive.org yet it will be soon. :)

Edit: Fixed alttext; only the 2.1 box is "for Windows", meaning they don't include Windows but use the license and files you presumably already have.

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@DarvenDissek @sebsauvage The fun part is that #QDOS stood for "Quick and Dirty Operating System" and was a one-person project by somebody who built a CP/M alternative by himself.

#Microsoft bought it for small money, relabeled it as #MSDOS and made their first Millions with it.

Furthermore: #Windows was a rip-off from macOS. And #WindowsNT was a dirty hit in the back while MS was (co-)developing #OS2 for IBM.

Most people don't even know about #Excel and (partly) #Word being a 3rd-party software bought by MS.

The main contribution by MS was not as a software developing company. Their core competence was taking money for something that was for free and widely shared and improved by all sorts of people before. They invented proprietary software, software licenses and mandatory software bundles with hardware with no option not to pay for it.

Whatever software decisions were made on top, were mostly really poor decisions IMO.

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@ska

I wrote an IDENTD for OS/2 around the turn of the century.

I added one to #djbwares just recently to see what of this old stuff is even hit any more. IDENT was barely in use back then.

It's surprising to see that a GOPHER sever is (a) quickly jumped on when set up, (b) regularly mis-treated as speaking HTTP or SIP; whereas at the same time there are WWW robots that do not even recognize gopher: as a URL schema, and treat it as a relative URL.

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@scott @Gammitin I loved OS/2, although 2.1 was the first release I used, in 1993. I remember having weird issues installing it as my monitor always went out of sync when booting the install floppy. Took me ages to fix but for the life of me I can't remember the fix...

When I have the tuits I'm going to get myself a period-correct system to run it again, may go with a later release though. #os2 #retrocomputing

inexplicably removed from youtube, this has just been recovered with wbm:

ibm hires kate mulgrew/captain janeway in 1994 to promote OS/2 Warp 3 after patrick stewart shits the bed on a paid appearance

it's painful.

Made an OS/2 Warp 3-ish theme for my X11 window manager and finally added support for showing application icons in the top left corner.

Unfocused windows have a slightly darker border (unlike in OS/2), which helps me identify which window has focus.

(The WM is keyboard-driven only, hence I left out the minimize/maximize buttons in the right corner.)

#OS2

(Is X11 #RetroComputing yet?)