@Geri which just goes to show how spectacularly bad #FPTP is.

@tinker i prefer #Approval #voting but #RCV / #IRV is still better than #FPTP

I can't resist, time for another Ben #voting rant:

https://gothamist.com/news/nearly-a-quarter-of-nycs-early-voters-hadnt-voted-in-a-democratic-primary-since-2012

"Nearly a quarter of #NYC’s early voters were new #Democratic #primary participants"

So #Mamdani's chances of winning today is propelled by people showing the fuck up

If he wins he moves us toward remaking the #Democrats further #left

nonAmericans/ naive people:

In the stupid American #FPTP voting system 3rd party only divides the left. Duverger's Law

So we have to remake the dems, this is our only way forward

1/x

@RichardJMurphy

Although I’m in favour of Proportional Representation, I’m also worried about the emphasis sometimes placed on it as a solution to the UK’s dysfunctional politics and democratic deficit.

While I think PR is better than FPTP, I don’t think it changes much in itself. FPTP systems produce a duopoly of ‘broad church’ parties that tend to take turns at government; PR systems produce lots of smaller parties, that indeed more accurately reflect the electors’ views, but which generally only get into government as part of ‘broad church’ coalitions. If you look at what governments have actually achieved under the various systems in Europe over recent decades, I’d say it’s true that PR has led to better government – but not actually that much better.

Reforming the funding of political parties would do more, I think – and many of the countries seen from the UK as better-governed are different in this respect, as well as voting systems – but I’d say equally important are facilitating media impartiality (by which I mean true impartiality – telling the truth regardless of vested interests – not the BBC idea of balancing opposing views) and decentralisation – passing far more funding and spending power, and decision-making, down to local levels.

@Daojoan
America is by far the least structurally democratic country, and the results show

The rich white slave-holders built in their power and it has never been broken

Britain, Canada, and India all suffer under First Past the Post systems

But the US has its Electoral College and all its other failed democracy ills: voter suppression, gerrymandering, and campaign funding/bribery/corruption

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/First-past-the-post_voting
#democracy #FPTP

@fairvote.ca

Read this excellent 18 part thread of just what the fuck happened Monday night.

6 of the last 8 federal elections in Canada were minority governments. #fptp is now just banana republic fuckery.

The 3 circles here, from 2021, will be even more vile for 2025.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_Canadian_federal_election#/media/File%3ACanada_Election_2021_Results_Map.svg

Annnnnnny NDP MP who supports Carney must demand a #proportionalrepresentation bill to be passed by the end of 2025.

@gwynnion

Right?

Liberalism always loses to fascism, because fascism is based on stoking fear & hatred & blame & ignorance.

Liberalism fails the tolerance paradox & somehow is ok with lies like this crime nonsense, attached.

Our job in the c/a/n/a/d/a project is to end #fptp http://fairvote.ca go fully #elbowsup, convince the 50% of those voting #neverpoilievre that their nazis are losers.

If a bar lets in nazis, it's a nazi bar.

@atomicker

We ever so clearly need to scrap the #fptp electoral system.

It worked ok in the 19c when only men could vote and there were only 2 parties.

21c? No fucking way.

https://www.fairvote.ca/

@the5thColumnist @grumble209 @GutterPoetry @todymotmot @wendinoakland @profdc9 @zakalwe

it does

with the caveat #canada has #parliamentary #democracy, which lends some stability to 3rd parties, while the #usa #fptp nonparliamentary system means 3rd parties can never be stable

#australia meanwhile is laughing at both the usa and canada, since they have parliamentary *and* #rankedchoicevoting #rcv (what they call preferential voting)